$3,000 A MONTH TOKYO APARTMENT VS LOS ANGELES APARTMENT

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[Music] find an apartment anywhere in the world I think is a pain but I think I’ve had the most difficult times all the time and I think I’ve so many friends living here in Tokyo Japan complaining about how difficult is find a place you’re especially with all the upfront cost so in this video we are lucky enough to compare a $3,000 a month apartment here in Tokyo with a $3,000 a month apartment in Los Angeles where my sister lives so if you’re an American comes Japan or if you’re Japanese person moving to America I think just to give you both good insights on what a $3,000 a month apartment looks in both countries so while my apartment here in Tokyo might look a little bit smaller or not as nice as my sister department in Los Angeles there are good reasons for that here in Tokyo or I guess in Japan in general $3,000 a month for an apartment is a little bit on the expensive side and I would say it’s a little bit above average as opposed to an apartment in Los Angeles for $3,000 a month is on the average side the major reason for this difference in rent is a very simple answers the average income in Japan is around two thousand nine hundred dollars a month which is around $35,000 a year as opposed to America which is around four thousand eight hundred dollars a month which is about fifty eight thousand dollars a year so as you can see a three thousand dollar apartment in America is more closer to the average side than it is here in Japan actually here in Japan you wouldn’t even be able to rent out a site for $2,000 a month with that average salaries obviously you can do the math there so let’s jump straight into comparing these two apartments by looking at each room side-by-side the overall square feet of both apartments is around 900 for my sister’s Los Angeles apartment and around 600 for my Tokyo apartment my sister’s apartment will be a 2 lgk which means 2 bedrooms living dining and a kitchen while my Tokyo place is actually a 1 ldk which means one bedroom living dining and kitchen something that an LA bedroom would never have our job our rooms while they come frequent interview apartment tatami floors may look pretty but they are paying to clean up which I’m very thankful for that I don’t have in my bedroom another thing that you would never find in an LA apartment our toilets and showers being crammed into one small room which you would normally find in most smaller Tokyo apartment because my place is big enough I thankfully have separate toilet and shower rooms this is what it would look like if you did have it though washer and dryer is within the unit for an LA apartment is using added bonus but unlike in Tokyo there usually isn’t a need to buy one yourself as they’ll be provided with an apartment complex I think one of the major differences inside and most Tokyo apartments would be the size of kitchen my sister’s la apartment kitchen is almost double the size of mine in LA most electrical appliances such as stoves and fridges also come with the unit while in Tokyo they almost never do in social you could be stuck in an apartment with only one stove as well which will never be vacation in LA apartment so now let’s start talking about some of the things that you will be looking for in a Japanese apartment as opposed to an American problem because they do differ and let me be specific these are general to Tokyo and Los Angeles for a Tokyo apartment some of the main things that you’ve been looking for our proximity to the station which is very important since number one here itself you’ll basically walk everywhere or take the bus out or maybe a bicycle also that very purpose it’s very important to know which train line stopped at your train station so basically for convenience and accessibility obviously you want to transition with more train lines the area in itself is it more residential major a lot of nightlife is it really busy is it really noisy that’s also something you take into consideration when you’re trying to find a place here in Tokyo and once again I’ve been trying to procure self euro be walking the proximity to a convenience store or supermarket is very very important as you may know here in Tokyo many people would be buying a lot of food or kind of stopping by then you store to pick up a water or basically kind of your essentials that you may need if the supermarket is closed because convenience stores are open 24 hours in Tokyo you may be surprised the upfront cost is usually enormous so some people do look for places with no deposit and there’s something called here in Japan called key money which is kind of an ancient historical term after war I kind of came into existence to thank the landlord to let me stay there a key money is usually like 1 or 2 months of rent deposit another 1 or 2 months of rent plus you need to pay the agency fees so it’s like insane sometimes it’s you know over ten thousand US dollars obviously this would be a three thousand apartment you’re paying that much up front cost per month yeah give the upwards of 10,000 u.s. so doesn’t something to take into consideration if you’re trying to find a place here in Tokyo how many apartments here in Japan don’t allow pets so if you do have a dog a cat turtle boxes or you may have that is also something you would need to kind of check off the box that you know make sure you this apartment allows and lastly something that is looked upon here in Japan is how old the building is so there are many old buildings here and it probably that is there is no central heating you know whether it’s if it’s in the winter the cold air would easily go in there also thin walls which is also something that people don’t like because you can hear people very clearly living next view which could be kind of a pain in the butt if they’re screaming or something also because there’s many like tall buildings here in Tokyo obviously third floor and Haier is usually looked at something as a plus for multiple reasons just because the humidity would stay you know on the bottom floors which is kind of a pain here in Tokyo if it is really humid in the summer and also sunlight Sun like is something that you would probably prefer if you’re drawing your clothes outside like most people here in Japan do in order to dry their clothes quicker as well as in the morning of course everyone would like some sunshine as opposed to no sunshine is it so I’ll see some specifics for Los Angeles apartment general neighborhood and proximity to your office you is something that will be looked upon more since everyone in a Los Angeles drives you don’t really want to be stuck in rush-hour freeway traffic if you ever have seen rush-hour freeway traffic in Los Angeles it’s the worst but you don’t if you don’t want to be stuck in traffic in mufon’s you probably will be forced to but if you don’t have to take the freeway then the chances of that are being decreased a lot also in Los Angeles are typically don’t to pay an agency fee so many people actually don’t use agencies in Los Angeles for kind of the average style apartment so you don’t have to pay the agency which is pretty important and optimum cost in America is I would say like a tenth of what you have to pay here in Japan and lastly in Los Angeles you don’t have to separate trash which is so so annoying in Japan you have to separate your burnable trash to your unburnable trash to your PET bottles of pepto plastic bottles to your can and your glass bottles I’m pretty sure the only five typically I think but in you know in America there’s recyclables and there’s trash that’s all and last but not least contract in America are typically one year leases while in Japan they be – we are two years or more so I guess you are feel more safe he’s trying to place interview it can actually land a plate interview I guess because all the upfront costs you probably want to be there anyway longer to make it worth Thursday so yeah so I hope you guys enjoyed this video please leave a like comment share and subscribe this is kind of a fun video to make it compares the village between America Japan are actually pretty educational to myself since I’ve actually never lived in Los Angeles yes yeah I brought to college move straight to Tokyo so ya had an experience I have to do a lot of research about it and I talked to my sister about that’s kind of a cool experience but I yeah I’ll see you guys in my next video thank you so much for the support so far and we’ll see you guys later bye [Music]

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  1. I've rented an apartment via Airbnb before in Tokyo and did not have to pay key money and the deposit. It probably depends the hosts themselves, and whether they are interested in renting out the place long term, or not. But since the hosts we talked to owned the entire apartment building, they were totally cool with it. (:

    Yes trash separation is so troublesome!
    I remember that there were even special instructions for throwing out yakitori sticks :/

  2. This was actually informative, but do you get any of the money back after your term has ended? (I.e. damage deposit/upfront money) like you would if you were to pay in an American apartment? And also, can you extend your lease if you wanted & have to pay the dd/upfront money again? 🙂

  3. this whole "small Japanese apartment" phenomenom is weird because Japan actually has a lot of space… yeah yeah I know, mountains and all, but STILL they have more space than, say, Italy or Britain

  4. I live in Suzuka in Mie prefecture, we basically separate every single thing and the worst part is that there is schedule for when and where you have to put the trash, it is pain in the …

  5. Great topic, being from LA I can absolutely relate. (Props to the Japangeles Tee!) The thing I noticed while looking at living costs in LA v Japan is that unless you are directly in the city center, Japan's rents are WAAAAYYYYYY cheaper. It's not even close. $3000 is still on the higher end for a LA 1br btw … An OK 1br in an OK area, not centrally located in LA will still run you $1800-2000. Not cheap, but not $3000. Whereas an OK 1br in an OK area, not centrally located in Tokyo you can still find for $1000-1200. In other major cities like Osaka, even less. Now the cost of everyday living and travel is higher in Japan. Groceries, utilities, gas, subway rides, parking, etc … in general, you can say that Japan will be around 10-20% more expensive so that savings in rent can often be cancelled out. Healthcare is MUCH cheaper in Japan and to some, it could be the most important factor of them all. My friend in LA broke his leg last year, had insurance, still owed $5000, no bueno.

  6. こうやって見ると日本で働いたりするのがバカらしくなるよなぁ。
    それはともかく日本語字幕ありがとう。ペットボトルをプラスティックボトルって言い直したのは面白かった😁

  7. I'd heard this before but I've wondered if the whole agency thing is due to actual laws or is it just one of those "that's how it's always been done" kinda things? It seems like, as a landlord, it would be easier to rent out a place if your tenets knew they didn't have to pay those extra fees

  8. Yes recycling properly is a pain i the ass. I wish i could dump the food together with the recyclables like you can in American eateries.

  9. トイレとバスが一緒は不衛生に感じる。トイレ使用後、水を流すと便が空にまき散らされて歯ブラシ
    に便が付着するのが嫌だな。

  10. Very informative, thank you! But wow the average lease length is so surprising! I would have thought it was the same or shorter than LA. Housing in Sweden is crazy, so many people are looking for places to live that you're LUCKY to find a leased place (or have to pay an inordinate amount of money for it). Most places in Sweden are month-to-month. it's insane. Be thankful leases are so long on Tokyo.

  11. This is a luxury apartment with a fitness gym in the center of Tokyo.
    My room j is a 3-minute walk from the station, Adachi-ku.
    Separate bath toilet in 30 square meters with 1 kitchen 1 bed reem.
    The rental fee is 600 dollars at month.
    Many foreigners live in my apartment.

  12. As an LA native I can assure everyone that $3000 a month for rent is not even close to average. $3000 is high-end living here. A nice 2 bedroom apartment in a decent neighborhood probably goes anywhere from $1500-2000 max (still expensive, I know). Anything more means you have a pretty nice income even for this city.

  13. 3000 dollars a month is 36k a year, that's more than a lot of people make in a year and you're looking for patron donations…. YouTubers are so self entitled lmao

  14. do you get key money back when you leave?? in australia there is usually a bond of 1 month rent but you get it back if you leave the apartment in good shape

  15. I make 65000 a year.. there's no way I would be able to afford 3000$ a month rent.. me and my wife both work and I was paying 1100 a month in Cali and that was a lot .. you got your calculations wrong somehow

  16. $3000 for that small apartment is cray. When I lived in Japan I used to live in a bigger 2 floor house in Ueno for around $1200

  17. Just curious:
    1) What do you do for work that you can afford $36,000/year just on RENT?
    2) Why are you asking for Patreon donations?

  18. Thank you for comparing. Usually, Youtubers compare Tokyo to small town in Canada & USA.
    I live in Flatiron district of Manhattan, New York. My rent is $3,800/month for 640 SQFT. It's a one bedroom apartment with tip-demanding / greedy doormen. Christmas season we have to tip $100 each for 14 employees in my apartment building.

  19. $3000 a month for an apartment like that (even the LA one) is INSANE. I'm in the Atlanta area, within 10 miles of the city, which is not cheap either (but less so than Los Angeles) and we're paying $1200 for a 1100sq/ft apartment with 2 bedrooms (1 master), 1 bathroom, living area, dining area, kitchen. $3000 gets you about 3 bedrooms/2 bathrooms in an apartment in my complex that's pretty nice. But if I'm going to pay $3000 a month, I'd just go to a house! But I'm also not into living in the city. XD

  20. That's crazy expensive… In my country with $3000 per month you would be staying in a big mansion with spare change to buy a BMW…

  21. If you pay 3000 dollars a month you might as well save up some more and buy a house for 400,000 dollars I fell like that would be a better investment.

  22. Wow! Is so expensive for those little homes. 😮 Here in Hungary you can rend with that much money a 130+ sqm (about 1400 sqft) huge luxury homes in the center of the capital (new built, renoviert, and fully furnitured). 😮

  23. Many companies in Japan subsidize rent for their employees, which might be the case with Chris. Either way if you're making enough money to afford that then good for you!! Nice video! I really enjoyed it 🙂

  24. 3000 USD for a apartment? OMG, that's insane!
    3,000 USD =2,579.07EUR

    I pay about 400 Euro (465.27 USD) per month for my appartment in the Netherlands, I do have to say that I am not within one of the major cities and pretty much in a small city of about 4000 people. But my place is just a little bit smaller then what your sister has from what I can see from your video.

    For the trash, yeah the Netherlands has a lot of that happening as well. I just couldn't give a damn really, all that and it all still will end up on the same pile. So it's rather too much work for no positive gain. Also I have so little trash that I skip trash collection day from time to time (once every 2 weeks)

  25. $3k per month for an apartment? Are we looking about 25%-35% after tax income for rent? Does average person in LA make about $8.5k – $12k per month after tax?

  26. Damn, when I heard you saying garbage sorting was annoying I just thought it was the most normal thing in the world. Why isn't the US doing this? Here in Europe a lot of countries do recycling also. Canada even does it, dah heck

  27. Also, if anyone ever considered renting for 3000 a month, you'd best look into getting a mortgage and not waste all your precious money.

  28. What…. im japanese and im here just to make sure everybody understands that having a bathing place and a toilet stuck together is not a typical house structure in Japan… ive never lived in that kind of place before and my dad is just a salaryman…

  29. In one of this guys other videos he disabled the comments where one girl was talking how Japan was expensive but you could earn a lot of money. That was 25 year old information

  30. Please stop generalizing, not everyone here drives. We have a subway and light rail system. I make great money as a Developer and don't own a car because it isn't needed.

  31. $3,000 a month here in Memphis is two-story, two-car garage, full front and back yards (with a pool and a dog), and five or six bedrooms. If you pay more than $600 here you definitely should be staying in a house. The variation of cost of living is insane.

  32. 3000$ will give you a fucking luxury apartment or prolly a huge bungalow in suburban india and any other nice apt. in any high end area of the mumbai city…😅

  33. I just want to say $3000 a month and 58,000 a year is not normal in America. Maybe L.A., but not America in general. I have a 2 bdrm house with huge yard and finished basement for 660 a month.

  34. Lmao my husband (Japanese) is like “That looks like a cheap apartment. Why is it 300000? (run down/older) why is he rich, what’s his job? Gimme money!” Rofl
    Are you living in Ginza or something?

    Most of my friends in Tokyo’s studios are like $650 and one bedrooms like $700-800 and they’re central like Ebisu and Minato ku, one in Shibuya, all maybe 5 mins walk from the stations.
    Gotta admit I’m leaning along the lines of everyone else as to why you’re asking for money, you could easily be saving $2k a month just moving to a different (and nicer) apartment.

    Also, people making $40-50k/year in the US, are low-level rich, not average. Average is probably more around 25-30k.

  35. I just built 8 new apartments in my 25 apartment building. Each 1 bedroom apartment rents for 2500$ in Boston, MA .I’m giving my property to my son n his Japanese kawaii wife to take over.

  36. I don't where you rented from before. But that's way too much for rent. My house payment is 600 a month. 4 acres , 3 bedroom , 2 bathroom house. And no it's exactly close to much of anywhere. And no I don't want or need to be close to all that crazyness

  37. I have the feeling this dude is from a rich family and he doesnt really how money works for a regular person…

  38. 3000 a month wow. in Belgium we live in a quite fancy modern duplex and pay 850 euro a mont but then again we bothe make around 1200 a month so yeah

  39. For $3,000 in Oceanside, CA ( about 1hr & 25 mins south away from LA ) you can rent a 3 bedroom & 2 bath house. It’s pretty expensive because it’s right next to Camp Pendleton ( a marine corps base )

  40. This is good information, but people should not take it out of context.

    First, LA is not the equivalent of Tokyo in the US – that would be more like New York.
    If we're talking close to Tokyo center, around or inside the Yamanote line, that'd basically be Manhattan.
    Osaka or Yokohama would be closer to LA in population.
    So, while it's comparing prices between the cities, people should not generalize it to countries… those cities are on different scales.

    Give a general idea, Tokyo has a bit over the same population of both combined (LA plus New York), it is the center of Japan for lots of things – economical, political, commercial, urban, etc.

    Not that LA is small… it's basically the second biggest city in the US… which should give you a sense of density. Again, Tokyo has close to 14 million people living there, New York has a bit over 8 million, and LA has close to 4 million.

    It's not cheap to rent in Tokyo, but nowhere nearly as expensive as some of the other capitals in the world. Particularly not as expensive as equivalent, and some not even that equivalent cities in the US. See what you can get for 3000 a month in Manhattan, Silicon Valley and some others. xD

    The wage part is true, in Japan it's not about position or qualification, it's about how long you've been working in a company. So, while the average wage is lower, it's also just better distributed. Less rich people, but also less poverty.

    As in other parts of the world, the further away you are from a major metropolitan area like Tokyo, the cheaper it gets. But the sizes are pretty standard, prices a bit more leveled off. You'll get bigger apartments and houses further away from Tokyo, but probably not something the size of houses in US. They get cheaper too, but the difference is not super crazy.
    But this has more to do with culture and construction methods I guess. There are some big houses in Japan but those are usually very old… like rich family house complexes that have some history of tradition.

    The rest, spot on. Crazy initial rental fees (some landlords don't charge it, specially from foreigners), crazy trash separation rules, and prices going up the closer you are to a metro station which I think is an universal rule.

  41. I live in Tokyo and If your apartment is 3000usd/month, That's too expensive and something wrong… unless you stay certain area such as middle of Roppongi or Shibuya. Hence I think this comparison is not apple to apple…

  42. 3000 dollars for an apartment in tokyo is a little bit on the expensive side? For that apartment of yours in some of the best parts of Tokyo (cozy parts of Meguro, Shibuya) you should pay no more than 120,000 yen ( 1200 used a month) . 3000 usd per month you should be looking at spacious, brandy new apartments in Azabu or Den en chofhu ( which is like the Long Island of NYC by the way) This guy is either living in a parallel Tokyo or got his maths wrong. I couldn't help writing a comment, it is just misinformation.

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