9/11 First Responders Expose the Truth & Tragedy Behind the Aftermath

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– [Reporter] This just in, you’re looking at
There was screaming and yelling in the background
– obviously very disturbing live shot there.
– and a followup call was not answered.
– That is the World Trade Center and we have unconfirmed reports this morning that a plane has crashed
into one of the towers– (screaming and yelling)
(sirens blaring) – [Man] We have some
problems over here right now, and we might have a hijack
over here, two of ’em. – [Reporter] We understand that a plane has crashed into the World Trade Center. (yelling)
(sirens blaring) – [Woman] Oh my god, another plane has just
hit another building. Flew right into the middle of it. – Oh my god.
– Oh my goodness. – Oh god, there’s another one.
– The crash of these two aircrafts into the towers of the World Trade Center New York appear to be an act of terrorism. – [Woman] They’re jumping out the windows, I guess because they’re
trying to save themselves, I don’t know. (muffled voices) – [Man] Over the police radios
and among emergency workers I can hear them screaming,
calling for help. – [Woman] United 93, you
got information on that yet? – [Man] Oh there it goes,
there it goes, there it goes. – [Reporter] These two huge towers, there is now nothing. – [Man] (muffled voice) horrific sight anyone could have witnessed in a lifetime. I cannot believe my eyes. (intense dark music) – [Maria] It’s been 18 years since the September 11th terrorist
attacks that shook America. On that day in 2001 19 men hijacked four U.S. commercial airplanes
bound for the West Coast. At 8:46 in the morning
American Airlines flight 11 crashed into the North Tower of the World Trade
Center in New York City. 17 minutes later, United Airlines flight 175 struck the South Tower. Approximately 30 minutes
after that, at 9:37, American Airlines flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon in Washington D.C. Then roughly an hour
after the first attack, the fourth plane, United
Airlines flight 93, traveling from Newark to San Francisco, crashed near Shanksville, Pennsylvania. And later that day, at 5:20 p.m. a third building came
down in lower Manhattan. Upon the collapse of the Twin Towers, dangerous toxic dust
containing asbestos and smoke filled the air surrounding the area. At the World Trade Center 2,753 people lost their lives that day. At the Pentagon 184. At Shanksville, 40
passengers and crew members aboard the aircraft died
when it crashed into a field. In only 102 minutes 2,977
people lost their lives. The victims ranged from two
years old to 85 years old. An additional 10,000
people suffered injuries directly related to the attacks, many of them severe
and extremely critical. Of those who perished, 343 were
New York City firefighters, 23 were New York City police officers, and 37 were officers
of the Port Authority. Within seconds these
heroes rushed to the scene to rescue and recover whatever
and whomever they could. And for them and the
other 10s of thousands of responders and victims
in Lower Manhattan in its aftermath, the events of 9/11 didn’t just last 102 minutes or 24 hours. For them and their
families 9/11 never ended. – Everybody’s mentioned it so far today, we keep talking about 18 years later. We keep talking about two decades. For the 99% of the American population, yes, it’s been 18 years. It’s been almost two decades. But for the 9/11
community, it’s yesterday. It’s the longest day
in the history of days. It’s never ended. So what your 18 years feels
like is really 18 hours to me. You know what I’m saying? And if you put it into perspective, 9/11 has still has a crippling effect on 10s of thousands of Americans, because that scar has
not been allowed to heal, whether they lost a loved one that day, whether they got sick,
whether they lost one because of an illness,
everybody knows somebody. That’s just six degrees of
separation in the United States. Everybody knows somebody somehow someway. But it’s the longest day
in the history of days. – [Maria] According to
recent CDC estimates, by 2020 more men and women will have died as a result of 9/11
related illness than those who died during the attacks. The first time I came
across these estimates I was speechless. I couldn’t understand
how something like this could have gone unnoticed. – These men and women who are affected by the aftermath of 9/11,
they’re home wondering why. Why was I treated like shit by the federal, state, local governments? Why was I treated by my union like that? I can’t answer it for them. I can only answer for what I do, and that is to repair damaged people. To try to make them whole again. To give them hope, to give them faith, to let them know that humanity does exist, that I still care. – [Maria] And as responders continue to fall sick and die almost
two decades after the attacks the questions we’re still asking ourselves are why has it taken so long? What’s being done to help them? And who’s going to pay for it? In an effort to address this crisis, advocates have been working tirelessly over the last 18 years
to ensure responders and survivors have access
to healthcare and benefits. Just this summer, after
various iterations, hundreds of meetings, and one daunting political
hurdle after another, the Never Forget the Heroes:
James Zadroga, Ray Pfeifer, and Luis Alvarez Permanent Authorization of the September 11th
Victim Compensation Fund was finally passed. You may remember the viral video featuring former Daily
Show Maria John Stewart’s tearful and impassioned testimony before the House Judiciary Committee about the bill back in June. It passed in both Houses in mid July, and was signed into law
by President Donald Trump on July 29, 2019. The bill authorized this
funding through 2092. And now that the bill has passed, let’s take a look at the
road it took to get here. The original September 11th
Victim Compensation Fund operated from 2001 to 2004. The VCF was first created by Congress after the 9/11 attacks in
2001 to compensate those who were injured or the
families of people who died. The fund ended in 2004 as planned. Then in 2010 lawmakers pushed
to reauthorize the fund to help first responders, volunteers, and survivors who had spent weeks at the sight of the attack, inhaling toxic dust and smoke. In response, the fund was
reauthorized by Congress and then President Barack Obama in 2011 as part of the James Zadroga 9/11 Health and Compensation Act of 2010. That act was named after
NYPD officer, James Zadroga, who developed a respiratory disease after weeks of contact
with the toxic chemicals around the attack site and died in 2006. Under this act responders with an illness that stemmed from their exposure
to these toxic chemicals could receive compensation. And according to the World
Trade Center Health Program, which was set up to help
those with medical conditions linked to the attacks, Zadroga’s case wasn’t an isolated one. 10s of thousands of responders
worked at Ground Zero, meaning 10s of thousands of people were at risk of getting sick. But on October 1, 2015,
the Zadroga Act expired. Jon Stewart went to Congress
with first responders and campaigned for the
Act’s reauthorization. As a result, Congress had to once again renew the bill in 2015
to extend its funding. But reauthorization took years, with advocates and responders
making hundreds of trips to D.C. to pressure Congress
to carry out its function, protecting its citizens. And while funding was supposed
to last well into 2020, the program had already been running dry, with some victims getting
reduced checks earlier this year. In February 2019, the fund’s
administrator announced that the VCF did not have enough money to pay both existing and expected claims. So responders and advocates once again began pushing Congress to do something to address this issue. At which point came the
Never Forget the Heroes Act, the one we talked about
earlier in this video, that authorizes the September
11th Victim Compensation Fund through 2092. People who were on the scene, either as responders or
as volunteers, can join. There are also related programs for people who lived, worked, attended
school, or were just in the area both during and in the
aftermath of the attacks. But this bill, along with all of the ones that came before it has had a long and bitter history in Congress. It’s been an uphill
battle to say the least. In an effort to make sense of it, I flew to New York to
speak to the very people who have spent the last 18 years at the forefront of this battle, not only fighting for their own lives, but also trying to raise enough awareness to help ease the pain
and suffering of others. A lot of people believe that
Jon Stewart’s powerful speech was the straw that broke the camel’s back. But while he played a monumental role in the passing of this
bill, he didn’t do it alone. Here are the stories of the
men who were at his side. – I was a sergeant in the 90 precinct, which covers Williamsburg, Brooklyn, and I was a burglary sergeant. I had my own crew. Five other officers. That day was primary day. So your officers were
assigned to primary details. I was alone investigating a burglary. And call came over. And I knew the Williamsburg Bridge connects Williamsburg to Manhattan over by Delancey Street
in Lower Manhattan. So, anticrime sergeant shut
down the Brooklyn side, I shut down the Manhattan side, originally just to let apparatus through. Then the second plane hit and then I realized we were under attack. And when I was in the service in the Army I was deployed to Bosnia Herzegovina. One of our primary missions as an MP, we had to secure a bridge
that connected Croatia and the Republic of Serbia. That was blows up and rebuilt. Immediately I went back to we’re at war. We’re gonna secure this fucking bridge because they’re not gonna
blow this bridge up. So I secured the bridge over
at Delancey and Clinton. Then later on it turned out
to be a mass exodus of people. I remember going over the
air, I need more people. Mass exodus and people just came over that bridge like zombies, covered in dust, staring, and
that’s where I was on 9/11. – I’m a retired New York
City police officer. I was a paramedic for 25 years. On the morning of 9/11 I was sitting in my office at 40 Foley when the first plane went by the window. And we were talking about
how the night before the game we got rained out, the Yankee game the night before, and it was a horrible,
horrible night that night. And that morning was just crystal clear. And the first plane went by, and then, what was that? Looked out the window and I
was looking out the window. To understand where 40 Foley is, it’s about, would you say
it’s about 10 blocks north? Like northeast of the Trade Center. And when the second plane came in you could feel the heat and the concussion come off the building, from where I was standing
looking out the window. And you just go into it. Just everybody, John was working that day, Richie was working that day,
Tommy was working that day. And it’s just something that takes over, like I have to get there to do something. And everybody sitting at the table, the 40 people we were down in D.C. with, unfortunately the countless people that we’ve known personally and gotten to know who’ve passed away, that was something that was in them. When Luis Alvarez testified when John brought him down to D.C., one of the things he said was, “I didn’t wanna be anywhere else “but Ground Zero when I was there.” And whether you were at
Ground Zero, Fresh Kills, or if you were down at the
Pentagon or Shanksville, every single responder, including everybody sitting at this table, would say the same thing, didn’t wanna be anywhere
else but there at the time. – So after the first
plane hit the commissioner called over to me ’cause I was the highest ranking
uniform under the Chief. And he said take everybody
out of the building and see what PD needs. ‘Cause the amount of vehicles
that were comin’ down from all different areas, and then the people
after the first plane hit were coming to evacuate. They were worrying about
everybody getting hit by cars and everything else, so our guys on both side of the buildings, kept everybody out of the streets. And then with that, the
second plane came from behind and blew out the front. Where I was standing I
thought it was a bomb. I didn’t see the plane come, but the just big explosion. And that’s when both towers were on fire, and that’s when the people started, they had a choice, either
they were gonna burn up or they jumped out the building. And that’s when they started
jumping out the building. And then we got word that
the one of the towers was gonna implode, to
get out of the street. And so we evacuated everybody
out up into the back into the building and then we watched it from the sixth floor from
the commissioner’s office, monitoring the radios, the citywide radio, and that’s when the towers
came down, one after the other. And then an hour after
that the commissioner, myself, and a few other
of our team members responded down there and thought about what can we do down here to, ’cause this is a disaster area, and the correction department, which a lotta people don’t know, brought the first 300
plus body bags down there. We have two storehouses on Rikers Island that are the size of football fields that had supplies that we brought down, five gallon bottles of water, probably a couple hundred of those. We brought down the first 80 generators with lights for that night. And our emergency service, just like PD and fire, were active. We had 111 officers and captains that are assigned to emergency service that were called in if
they were off to come in. And then they started teaming up and bringing ’em down to Ground Zero. And they started with
the search and rescue. And then after that, the mayor
had all the commissioners from the different agencies
meet at police headquarters to see how we’re gonna coordinate the efforts down at Ground Zero. And the correction department was given the task of running the morgue. So our support service division, which builds and maintains the jails, went down to Bellevue where
the morgue was set up, and put up these tents
for a temporary morgue. And then as the body
parts and stuff were found and put in body bags and
brought up to this morgue, makeshift morgue area, our correction guys ran the morgue. So, and then that continued on for months, and then I stayed with the commissioner, and every day we were down there. I was down in my office
in 60 Hudson Street. Every morning went down
to see the midnight guys who did their 12-hour tours. And then after that went
back out to the commissioner, and he went down, and
then we made our loops through the Staten Island Landfill where they also took all the debris, and they had conveyor belts set up where guys were looking through body parts and any kind of watches,
wallets, anything like that. And they had buckets on–
(voices muffled) Whatever they found they would
put in different buckets. – Listen, I’ve been given the gift
of blocking out what I saw. I’ve been given the gift to try to forget those five days I was there. If I do shut my eyes I remember the smell. And I think it’s a conscious choice now, 18 years later, for me. For me to be successful in what I do now, helping the 9/11 community, I had to block out those five days. I had to forget that I was injured and that my life was turned upside down. – [Maria] On September 11th John Feal was about a half an hour
outside of New York City overseeing a large demolition job. Following the attacks he and his team started packing heavy machinery, tools, and all the equipment needed to assist the men and women at Ground Zero. He arrived a day later, on September 12th. He was there for five and a half days before suffering a horrific injury. An 8,000 pound piece of steel fell over and crushed his left foot. He was hospitalized for
nine days in Bellevue where he developed gangrene. He was then transferred to
North Shore University Hospital where he became septic and found himself fighting for his life. He eventually wound up
losing half of his left foot. – My injury or those five and
a half days that I was there, what I’m gonna remember
the most was watching grown, burly men like these
guys hug each other and cry. And to see the humanity. The amount of humanity that poured in, just not on the pile, but
in the surrounding blocks for the people that supported us, for those that worked on the pile. I’m gonna remember that. I’m gonna remember the good. I’m not gonna remember
a bunch of terrorists deciding to do harm to the United States. – [Maria] The conditions in which these rescue and recovery
workers were exposed to were not only dangerous
but also highly toxic. Dr. Michael Crane is Medical Director of the World Trade Center
Health Program at Mount Sinai. Here is his statement in reference to the mushroom cloud that Tom described. “We will never know the
composition of that cloud, “because the wind carried it away, “but people were breathing and eating it. “What we do know is that it had “all kinds of god-awful things in it. “Burning jet fuel, plastics,
metal, fiberglass, asbestos. “It was thick, terrible stuff. “A witch’s brew.” The Mount Sinai World Trade Center Program has been working with major cancer centers to develop testing protocols that better fit people at risk because of their environmental exposure. Health centers like these can
offer more frequent screenings for things like lung, cervical, and colon cancers for responders, now that they better understand the risks. But the science of it is still developing. – The program saved my life
and I was already part of it. – This is our epidemiology. So science finally caught up to us. All these people came to one particular location in Manhattan. And they all came in
and they were all here and then afterward they
left that one location and they all went home and they went to their different places. So they’re not a cancer
number for this location. They’re really cancer numbers and illnesses for their home locations. And had they been in their own communities these people would have
had these illnesses anyway. Except for the fact
that when you start to, that’s a very easy, it’s
a plausible explanation why people go back. Except that when you start
to talk to the doctors and you have the statics like John has, and he goes well, how many of those people went back into the
community were 45 years old when they were diagnosed
with prostate cancer? How many of those people
developed sarcoidosis, like Mikey, when he was like 36 years old? How many of those people had this? And how many of those people have that? Oh, we haven’t looked at that. Oh we haven’t looked at that. Oh we’re gonna look at that later. And in a way, John was
always ready to come back with a response to anybody, and it’s always a good response. It wasn’t a screaming response. Well, there was some screaming sometimes. Having the ability to
come back with statistics and not just say, “Oh well, it
was a doctor that said that. “So they must be right. “So thanks, sorry for wasting your time.” And walking away. Because like we were talking about before, all of these ladies
and gentlemen came here and then they all went home. And the thing is that they’re the ones who have proven that
this problem is there. And they’re the ones who
we had to be the voice for. And that’s a heavy burden
on John’s shoulders and Richie’s shoulders and
Tommy’s shoulders and mine, to not wanna get it wrong. – [Maria] According to estimates, 90,000 responders showed up
at the World Trade Center in the aftermath of the attacks. An additional 400,000 survivors lived and worked in the area. There are over 95,000
members already enrolled in the World Trade Center Health Program. Reporting exposure to toxic chemicals like asbestos, burning jet fuel, burning computer parts,
pulverized concrete, and a myriad of other substances. Of that number, about 10,000 have been diagnosed with cancer. And overall, more than 2,000 deaths have already been attributed
to 9/11 illnesses. It will get worse. And thousands more are expected
to sign up for the program in the next few years. – What we did was help
100,000 people or more not only get healthcare but
get compensated up until 2090. We took the fight to Washington D.C., and we exposed where they
do business to the sunlight for the American people to see. It was grass root activism on steroids. But there’s no comfort, there’s no joy knowing that more and more
people are gonna get sick, more and more people are gonna die. And the statistics at the CDC
and NIOSH who administrate the World Trade Center
Health Program come out with, we were making these
predictions years ago. – [Maria] At first people suffered from irritative diseases like asthma and other
respiratory complications. But it takes years, sometimes decades, for cancers to develop from
environmental exposures. Many are sick for years. For others it comes on pretty fast. – You wanna know about my cancer? I left the NYPD in November ’02. I came out to Suffolk County. August, September ’08 I
had a mass in my mouth, my tongue, and it just wouldn’t go away. So I went to different
head and neck doctors, and they’re like, ah, it’s an infection. Go get antibiotics or what not. I was already in the World
Trade Center Health Program, and I said, listen I got this mass, not going away, I know cancer’s
not covered at this time, but can I see you regarding this. And they said sure. And this Dr. Rom, he says, wow, something’s going on here. And like many of these 9/11 cancers, they’re cancers on
steroids, very aggressive. That was in September. I actually had the biopsy
on September 11, 2008, and a tongue biopsy, it’s pretty brutal. A week later I had surgery. I had half my tongue removed. It’s called a hemiglossectomy. And I had my wrist put out here, and that was implanted into my new tongue. And then that scar there you see, that artery, had this artery removed. And that was, I had a
radical neck dissection, and that clamp there, clamped this artery and implanted there to
resupply my new tongue. And then had a second neck dissection to remove lymph nodes. And then I had a piece of my
thigh implanted into there. Because of the aggressiveness of the tumor I had to follow up with
six weeks of radiation. I was 38 at the time. And you don’t wanna get
radiation when you’re young, but I had to get it because
of the aggressiveness. It was what they call paraneural. The tumor spread into the muscles. When you have cancer
you just wanna fucking, like these men, you just
wanna fuckin’ drive on, keep goin’. So I went back to work January 1st. Three months later I was out
directing traffic at an SPI, serious physical injury
motor vehicle accident, and I was crushed by a motor vehicle and airlifted to Stony Brook Hospital. I wasn’t back up to my
fighting limit weight. I lost 100 pounds through
the whole cancer treatment. I’ve been cancer free,
followed up over all the years, PET scans, PET scans. But in April 2017 severe pain. I have woods behind my house. I didn’t wanna scream with the kids. I had five children and my wife, five young children. I would go back in the woods and scream. And then my wife heard me
and she said, “You’re goin’.” So I went to Stony Brook
and they did a CAT scan, and they said you have osteoradionecrosis. What that is is when you have radiation,
cancer radiation kills. X-rays don’t kill, CT scan. They have a cumulative effect, but they don’t immediately kill. The ionized radiation went through my jaw to get to the tongue. The mandible is weak to begin with. Osteoradionecrosis is the
destruction of the jaw. So I have a large hole in my jaw. This past April while we were lobbying I had to miss, I missed
the Lou Alvarez testimony. I had surgery. Part of my jaw debridged,
some teeth removed. Now I’m still going through it. I’m gonna have a surgery
again on the 12th. I have this missing tooth here. Matt calls me the jack-o-lantern,
the pumpkin, you know? I’m gonna get this grafted on. Cancer radiation is the
gift that keeps on giving. But I’m still driving on. I’m working full duty right now. And that’s that. – [Maria] Significantly
higher rates of blood cancers and now kidney cancer are being
diagnosed among responders. The wide ranging period between
exposure to a carcinogen and a diagnosis of cancer
adds to the confusion and predicting what will happen and when. Add that to an aging responder population, and you have a potentially dire situation. The average age of a
9/11 responder is now 55. While many people face a
cancer diagnosis as they age, according to Dr. Crane,
the rate of some cancers among first responders is up to 30% higher than in the general population. And these numbers demonstrate
the continued loss. As of 2019 222 current or former members of the New York City Police Department have died of 9/11 related illnesses. 47 have passed in the last year alone. That’s already more than
double the number of officers they lost on September 11th. The New York Fire Department
lost 343 members that day. And in July 2019 the FDNY
lost its 200th fire fighter, Richard Discoll, who passed
from 9/11 related illnesses. So many have died since the attacks that a new tablet had to be
added to the Hall of Heroes to accommodate all the
names of the fallen. But even with these numbers
and the CDC estimates, no one can know for certain just how many people have already passed. Neither the World Trade
Center Health Program nor the Victim Compensation Fund have kept records on how many people have died of a 9/11 related illness. – We’re beyond those numbers already. I said, we’re beyond, we’ve
surpassed the number of people who passed away that day with
the number of 9/11 deaths. ‘Cause you have to
remember, the CDC is using their own categories and criteria
for counting these folks. – Listen, physically we’re all decaying and we’re all deteriorating. 9/11’s getting the best
of us on a daily basis. We average every 2.7 days
that we lose a 9/11 responder. You know the old saying,
you only live once, the next time somebody says
that smack ’em in the mouth, ’cause you only die once. You live every day. The amount of destruction
caused by that day, now, you know, most people in America, even around the world, they’ve just seen two buildings came down and innocent lives were lost. They don’t even know that
at 5:30 that afternoon a third building came down, right? But then they don’t know the aftermath. They don’t know that these guys inhaled those toxins through
the nose, mouth, and skin. The absorption of those toxins has literally killed thousands of people and has made 10s of thousands sick. 18 years later it’s getting worse. We haven’t seen the next
wave of cancers come, which is the asbestos
cancers, which is coming. And it’s gonna be wearing bells, and it’s gonna punch the
9/11 community in the mouth. Everything that NIOSH
or the CDC or the DOJ or anybody with three letters
in front of them predicts, we’ve already predicted. And I’ll tell you why
we’re better than them and why we know more than them because we’re on the front
lines of the 9/11 community. We’re embedded in the 9/11 community. We see it, we live it
every day, every day. – [Maria] And contrary
to what many believe, cancer isn’t the only threat to the lives of these responders. – I was 43 years old and ended
up having a quadruple bypass. They got me before I had
a massive heart attack, but I was heading in that direction. And subsequently after that,
in the next five to seven years I had eight stents put in my heart. After that quadruple bypass
I still couldn’t breathe, and that’s when I was
diagnosed with asthma. And one thing led to another. Getting into the World
Trade Center Health Program with the yearly medical,
found out I had rhinitis, and stuff that everybody else has, GERD, and everything else like that. – [Maria] A study published in July 2018 showed a link between
cardiovascular health and posttraumatic stress disorder, a common illness among 9/11 rescuers, volunteers, and survivors. The research found that
response crew workers who suffered from PTSD had
more than double the risk for heart attacks or strokes than those without the disorder. A previous study published in the journal Environment International found that New York
children exposed to the dust because of where they
lived in the wake of 9/11 may be at higher risk for heart disease. Blood tests of teens and young adults who were children when
the Twin Towers fell showed high levels of
artery clogging cholesterol. And while the new VCF
provides presumptive coverage for a wide range of cancers, issues like PTSD or anything
related to mental health or cardiovascular health
are not covered by the VCF, even though they may be covered under the World Trade
Center Health Program. But this is something that John Feal and responders
have been pushing for in an effort to assist responders and to educate and pressure Congress to pass a bill that would
address their needs and concerns. Feal formed the FealGood Foundation. – The FealGood Foundation was a reaction to the lack of action taken by the state, local, and federal government. Before everybody got
sick and denied benefits or had to fight for themselves, I got hurt and I fought for myself first. And I didn’t have the luxury
of the FealGood Foundation to help John Feal. It was John Feal, the
demolition supervisor, fighting for basic
benefits that I paid into. And everything happens for a reason. You know? No shit, that hurt. My life was turned upside down in every way imaginable. Physically, mentally, spiritually. I questioned my existence,
I questioned God. I questioned if today was Friday. But again, my whole life has been about fighting. – Yeah, I mean well, Mike Lee, Rand Paul, and I think even Mitch McConnell, there was a lot of resistance there, but after the bill passed
you said in a CNN interview when you were actually
sitting with Jon Stewart you said that Mitch
McConnell’s a human being. – In 2010 and 2015 we
had really bad meetings with Mitch McConnell, bad. In 2015 the escorted me to his office with four guards with AR15s. That’s insulting. Starting in 2005 I got a bill called the Walsh Amendment passed. And then in 2010 the Zadroga Bill. Then in 2011 the Interoperability Bill and in 2015 the Zadroga Bill again. And then now this again. I have more time on the Hill than most freshman and sophomore
members of Congress. I made 282 trips to D.C. I’ve had over 1700 meetings. I think my body of work, our body of work, finally was recognized
that we were staples in the D.C. community, and that we couldn’t be put aside anymore. And we were a formidable adversary. And they had to respect our body of work. And I don’t think they
wanted to see us anymore. I think they wanted us gone. – [Maria] And eventually Mitch McConnell gave them the commitment
they were looking for. – We had this meeting
with Mitch McConnell. And he came in. He shook everybody’s hand. We sat down. And then the Senator wanted to speak. And I said, no sir, it’s my turn. And I spoke for about eight minutes. And then he tried to cut me off. I said, “Sir, I’m gonna
respectfully ask you “to let me finish. “‘Cause I got about 15
years of frustration “that has to come out.” As I was finishing up, I looked at him, I said, “Sir.” And I shook his hand, and
I just slid him the badge. I go, “This is Luis Alvarez’s shield. “Luis wanted you to have this. “Not as a token of
appreciation or a thank you “or a gift from a man that’s about to die, “but as a reminder that
you’re a human being “and you have a job to do.” I was just, Luis didn’t
say that, I made that up. But I wanted him to feel it. And I just said, “If this is my shield “I wouldn’t give it to you, “’cause you haven’t earned it. “But Luis’s a better man than me. “So now you have a responsibility “to get this on the floor
before the August recess. “You could do the right thing.” And then I said, “Let’s not kid ourselves. “I also know you have
an election coming up “and this one’s gonna be a tough one.” He actually got watery eyed. I was like, what? Can I curse? I was like what the? Mitch McConnell, the
person that everybody sees on TV that’s so cold and, I was like wow, this man’s a human being. He gave us a commitment, and he stuck to his word
that he would get this done before they went on their summer recess and that he wants to get this done. – Do you feel like now this
is your life’s purpose? – I don’t know. I don’t think I’ve scraped the surface of what I’m capable of doing. I think there’s something
bigger on the horizon. And again, what somebody else might
not see is this being big, what we’ve accomplished, I don’t know. But I know there’s more for me to do. And if it turns out that it’s bigger and helping more people, so be it. – One of the many goals
of the foundation now is to get more illnesses added to the bill so that more people are covered. What are some of the illnesses
that aren’t part of it now that you’d like to see on there
that you’re advocating for? – Neuropathy.
– Neuropathy. – Autoimmune.
– Autoimmune. – Heart. And we’re confident over
time and in the near future more and more illnesses will get added. You know, everybody
thinks when July 29th came and President Trump signed the bill that we were all gonna
go home and eat Skittles and frolic through the tulips. We have a lot of work left to do. And we’re not done. – In the beginning when
we first went down in 2010 we didn’t have the medical
documentation support. When we’ve been trying
to tell them since 2008 that this is gonna get
worse as time goes on. They just took it by the side, yeah, okay, and we moved on. Well, we got a bill passed, and they only gave us a five-year bill. And then when we started
going back in 2010, now we started having evidence showing ’em that listen, this is how
many people were affected, this is how many died, and the cancers, they haven’t even come out yet. And then we went back in 2015. Now we had even further. So now they’re starting to get on board. Now they wanna try to
get out in front of it for something that we’ve been preaching them for over 10 years to try to say, well, we
knew this was gonna happen. No you didn’t. You fought us on every level whatsoever. Now that we finally come to you, presenting you with a book
that John put together, showing you broken down by district in each state how many people are sick, now you’re finally gonna get on board. – [Maria] And what was the resistance? What were they saying? What was their argument? – [John] In 2010 when the bill
got past there was no cancer. – At first they didn’t believe us until we had the breakdown
and John put this together to show ’em by you got a state
in the middle of the country where you go into–
– In the very beginning, in the very beginning
they said we weren’t sick, we were making it up. Then they said it was a New York issue. Then they said well where
are you gonna get the money? Where are you gonna find the money? How you gonna pay for this? Every time they came up with
an excuse not to support this we gave them 10 reasons to support this. And then they would move on to their next cherry picked excuse, and we just kept rebuttal, just rebutting them, and listen, at the end of the day, and people forget that
the FealGood Found… we got a bill passed in 2011 called the Interoperability Bill passed. And the radios failed on 9/11, and that bill went into
effect a year and a half ago. And God forbid there’s mother nature, a terrorist attack, manmade,
whatever the case may be, national law enforcement and fire fighters will be on the scene (voice muffled). We get too much attention
on the other bills, but we also got five
bills passed in Albany. – You said you were 13 for 13. – Yeah, and that’s not bragging. That’s just being able
to outthink, out-hustle, outsmart, and outmaneuver,
and get in people’s faces. If you are in the position to help, you have the power to
help, and you don’t help, that’s where we come in. While these men are
advocating for themselves and others in their position,
time is not standing still. They’re still working, barrelling
through their illnesses, racking up debt, and spending
weeks on Capitol Hill away from their families. – Going to D.C. was the actual easy part. It was the before and after
that added years to our lives. Then the added stress
of Rich and I and Matt having to worry about, we
got four guys comin’ down, all four of them are in the same car. One that’s got oxygen, the
other one has stage four cancer, their wives and their, make sure my husband takes his medication. Don’t let my husband die. That alone was stressful. You know, we made it clear
that on these trips to D.C. or even when we’re trying
to get legislation passed, these trips aren’t vacations. They are mentally, physically– – Oh you’re exhausted, when you come on, that next week. You’re exhausted. – I was 43 years old. My daughters were young teenagers seeing me six months in recovery
from open heart surgery, took a toll on ’em. Something, any time I have a cough or something like that they worry. You know? The trips to D.C. took a toll on the wife. Worrying about, she was
one of the ones that said, make sure he comes home
whole or I’m gonna kill you to John when I used to
drive down with John. And then that’s the God’s honest truth. – And tell John Feal not to speed. – Did 100 trips down to D.C. since 2008. So, being away from the family, it took its toll. – Those are the unsung heroes, the wives. – Absolutely.
– You know, my wife breastfed with my daughter in 2008 at Mount Sinai Hospital
in the waiting room. And she’s always supported
me going down with the trips, and my kids get a kick
outta John, they really do. – Uncle John? – John does at Christmas. – I’m a lotta people’s uncles. – And my wife knew going
to D.C. is something that I wanted to do but I needed to do, too. And it was good as far as– (speaking over each other) And being around these
guys meant a lot to me, and it still does. – Doing this for me is very cathartic, and I’d follow these men
through the gates of hell. – We get the phone calls
and our family members are in the background, and they’re not deaf. I have 15 year old
twins and a 13 year old, and the conversations that they hear between me and john or
they hear between me and the funeral home or they
hear between this person, John’s wife hears between
him and somebody else and Richie’s wife and his
daughters hear about this, and Tom’s wife and his
kids hear about this person getting sick and that person getting sick. And we just deal with it. We deal with it every day. And I’ve had my kids,
my wife come up to me and say the kids wanted to know
when dad is gonna get sick. And Rob Serra and everybody else because we put ourselves in this position to help other people. But you can’t lose sight
of the people around us who are also living through
what we live through. And like they said, they’re
the strongest people because we’ve all missed birthdays, we’ve all missed anniversaries,
we’ve all missed this, and it’s some place we wanna
be and something we wanna do. But it’s the family
members around all of us, and the family members around
all the first responders who are still with us who are
still asking that question, when is it gonna be this person’s time. – I kinda feel bad, in 2015 and in 2019 when we got this bill passed, I told ’em, I spoke to them all, I
said put your swords down. You’re no longer warriors. Go home, grow something, watch it grow, and be with your loved ones. That’s what you’re meant to do now. If I’m calling you and I need you to pick up your sword again, you’ll be the first to know. As we get older, just life
in general is painful. As you get older it’s painful. And listen, whoever’s watching this, I know I look good for 52. But it’s an act, you know? Every morning I gotta put WD40 on. It’s literally in my joints. I’ve had 38 surgeries. My left knee is the only
joint that’s never sort of had sought medical treatment. Every joint in my body’s arthritic. I have a permanent broken back, I need two hip replacements,
I need a knee replacement. The physical pain, while it’s, it’s monumental, it’s huge,
it’s so painful every day, it doesn’t compare to the mental pain. The mental pain engulfs me sometimes. But I see so many people suffer and I just manage to take that pain, and it’s like coal. I just keep feeding my belly and I burn it and I use it. I either use humor or I use
the abilities that I have to help people to forget
about what I’m going through. – [Maria] In addition to helping people through the FealGood Foundation, in 2011 Feal spearheaded the creation of the first memorial in the U.S. to honor those who died as a result
of 9/11 related illnesses. Then this spring on May 30, 2019, the 9/11 Memorial in Lower Manhattan unveiled a Memorial Glade to honor these men and women as well. But visiting that memorial
has been difficult for some. – I have a problem going down there. And I think it’s a beautiful memorial. I think everything that happens, that they’re putting out
there for people is very nice. Whenever I go down to that particular area all I hear are reverse alarms
and generators running, ’cause that’s all we heard
when we were down there. Regardless if it was there or not, you heard the cranes and
everything backing up, so you had the constant reverse alarms. And then you heard the generators. And then the generators
got louder and louder as the day went on because it was darker. And then on top of that
every once in a while you hear the three horns blowing, everybody running for their lives. So those are the memories that I have from being down there. I think it’s a very respectful
memorial and monument and the Glade is beautiful
and it’s nice to see that they’re continuing to add things to it and recognize it. How many years after you put the wall up did they put the memorial up? – I have a great working relationship with the 9/11 Museum Memorial. They were actually in
the house the other day. I gave them the pen that Nancy Pelosi signed the bill with and Donald
Trump signed the bill with. My jacket’s in there. I have to work with them yearly. But that Glade that now sits on the plaza ground was no different in the beginning than a piece of legislation that we were trying to get passed. It was met with opposition. It was met with resistance. It was another obstacle and another hurdle that we had to overcome to let them know the significance and the importance of why that Glade should exist, just like all of this legislation
that we continue to pass. So going back to we’re 18 years later or two decades later, it’s still 9/11 and we’re
still educating people on the importance of what not to be and what to be and how
to do the right thing. And for years we fought
to get that Glade there until they finally agreed to do that. But that was years of being persistent, years of educating ’em,
years of letting them know that they’re not just that day. But following days and following
weeks and following months and now 18 years, that museum will be here way past we’re all gone. And the original founders of that museum and all the parties involved,
we’re gonna be gone, too. There’s gonna be a new set of people that has to educate a new set of tourists or a new set of Americans. And they’re gonna have a job to make sure that we get it done right now so when we pass the torch that
this story’s told accurate. – [Maria] And in the spirit
of educating the public of the sacrifices the
9/11 community has made, Feal took on the task of memorializing these men and women early on. – Judi Simmons, who is
the current President of the 9/11 Responders
Remembered Memorial Park, became involved following
the death of her husband, a New York City fire fighter who passed of 9/11 related respiratory illnesses. – I saw an advertisement
in one of our local papers saying that this park was
going to be constructed and called them up and said
I’d love to be involved. At that point the year before, one year prior to reading about the park, my husband had passed away. He was a New York City fire fighter, and he’d passed away of
respiratory illness from 9/11. He actually was off that day. He wasn’t working. I took our oldest son,
who was at the time six, to the bus stop. And heard on the radio that one of the towers had been hit by a plane. I made the mistake of
telling my husband that and he packed everything
up, went to his firehouse, grabbed his gear, and
made it to the towers just before the second collapse. He didn’t come home until Saturday night and then he went back again on Sunday. So he was there initially
the first six straight days without leaving the site. About a year and a half after 9/11 his cough never went away. He had a cough but it became chronic. His breathing function in
2005 started plummeting. He would be out of breath just going up the stairs at our house. I often said to him you
need to see a specialist, and his answer to me was if I wasn’t okay they wouldn’t let me work. However, I found out after he passed away he was hiding his respiratory issues from the fire department. He was seeking outside
doctors to prescribe him with inhalers and asthma medication. He didn’t wanna leave the job. I don’t want any other wife, husband to join the
widows, widower’s club. It’s one club I wanna keep very small. I don’t think the public realizes that 9/11 hasn’t ended yet. For the responders and their families, who are sick and having to go through treatments and suffering, it’s a day that hasn’t ended for them. – [Maria] The park, which is
in Nesconset, Long Island, features a granite wall
displaying the names of all those who have died. – And to me, the legacy, I hope my park is my legacy more so than
getting legislation passed, but also that legacy is continuing to have the dialogue and the conversation, not only about that day
but about the individuals. Because that legacy adds
to the memory, right? Verbal is memory or
something tangible is legacy. That’s my opinion. Now, so, I hope that park is my legacy. But I hope when I die, these three are talking about me going he was such a pain in the ass. – You don’t need to be dead for that. (chuckling) – See. He loves me. – [Maria] In September 2017 Feal added an additional 141 names to
the Wall of 9/11 Heroes. A year later, in 2018,
that number went up to 163. This year, 198 survivors
and responders names will be added to the wall. Before 9/11 I went to one funeral, that was for my grandfather. I was too young to even appreciate it. And I miss him and I love him dearly. But since 9/11 to go to 182, 183 funerals. That’s not a coincidence. That’s now, that’s now a, how do I, that’s part of my daily schedule. – [Maria] Every day John Feal is reminded of the work that has been done and the work that still needs to be done. Feal, Wilson, Palmer, McCauley, and dozens of other responders took
the fight to D.C. and won through tenacity and perseverance. And no one represented those qualities more than Lou Alvarez. – You all said you would never forget. Well, I’m here to make
sure that you don’t. You made me come down here the day before my 69th round of chemo. And I’m going to make sure that you never forget to take care of the 9/11 responders. Thank you for your time. (applauding) – He’s no different than any
of the other 9/11 responders ’cause he was where he wanted
to be when he was there. And everybody wanted to be there. And he took that step
forward and he became this internet inspiration
for a lot of people, where he would be 40
rounds of chemotherapy, 50 rounds of chemotherapy,
and yet he’d find the time to get on the phone with
somebody who was having a tough time with their
third round of chemotherapy. “Ah, come on buddy, keep
goin’, keep goin’, keep goin’.” And that was his thing. As it got deeper and
deeper into his treatments, into the 50s, and then
you’re into the 60 rounds. And then he’s like I
wanna be part of this. I look up to John. “I see John doing all this. “I wanna be part of this.” And that’s what led to coming down, and it was, he’s a quiet guy. But at the same time he also knew that when you’re 60 rounds of chemotherapy in people listen to what you have to say. He thanked us, and it’s a
very uncomfortable thing to have a guy who’s 69
rounds of chemotherapy in thanking you for something. And we’re like, no, no,
you don’t have to thank us, we have to thank you. He’d say, “No, no, no, no,
no, no, what more can I do? “What more can I do?” Even after he testified on June 11th and sat down there and
said you made me come here, next day we’re on a
conference call together. He’s like, “All right,
what are we doing now? “What are we doing now?” And meanwhile, this is
when he’s in the hospital. From June 11th to then June
29th when he passes away, is 18 days, yet during those 18 days he’s spending the time with us, he’s spending the time to
make sure the word gets out. He’s checking in with
John on a regular basis, and he just goes to that level of somebody where you’re like, and at the same time, he would sit there at night. The Yankees went on a hell of a winning trip during that time period. He’s sitting there with his son David and the rest of his family
watching a Yankee game. I had the opportunity to speak with him. I was away the day before he passed away, and called him on the phone
and he’s like, all right, I’ll see you on Saturday night. And the last words were I love you, buddy. And he said, “Love you, too.” And that was it. And then he went to sleep
and that was the end of it. But he lives on. He came to D.C. before with us. He came to D.C. with us afterward. John has done things in
an incredible time period. When you go from June 11th to
then the House passes a bill then the Senate passes the
bill and 30 days later, Lou dies on June 29th and 30 days later you have a House bill, a Senate bill, and the President of the
United States signs something. Short of an act of war,
that doesn’t happen. So John has credit that
he gets this through in less than a month. So if these guys are, they’re responders, they wanted to be there, but there are those that they just, they never wanted to
let anybody else down. – [Maria] Someone else who didn’t want to let anyone down was Jon Stewart. – Today it’s about the heart
of James Zadroga and Joe. And the integrity of Ray Pfeifer. And the courage of Lou Alvarez. And the tenacity of John Feal. They lifted this 9/11
community on their shoulders. And they carried them home. We can never repay all
that the 9/11 community has done for our country. But we can stop penalizing them. And today is that day
that they can exhale, because unfortunately
the pain and suffering of what these heroes
continue to go through is going to continue. These families deserve better, and I’m really, I’m hopeful that today begins the process of being able to heal without the burden of having to advocate. And I will follow you whatever your next adventure shall be. – [Maria] Feal and Stewart
first spoke in 2010 when Stewart hosted four 9/11
responders on the Daily Show to talk about Congress’s inability to approve a health
program for men and women who were at Ground Zero. Five years later, Stewart invited these
men back on the show, but only one, Kenny Specht,
was healthy enough to return. Two were too sick to attend and the the other had passed away. Stewart was shocked but further motivated to join forces with these
men to get something done. Feal himself was unable
to attend either taping, but the conversations that
followed between the two men created an everlasting bond. – Let me tell you somethin’
about Jon Stewart. I’ve met a lot of celebrities. A lotta them ran their mouths. Even today some of ’em
will even tweet something or put something on social media. Jon has no socia media footprints, but he is the most low-maintenance A-type celebrity I’ve ever met. And for him to treat me like a peer, which, and I even said this, Jon’s
only four years older than me, five years older than me. He looks 20 years older than me. Jon. He, he fills that void in my life. ‘Cause I never really
had that father figure, never really had that
older brother figure, Jon fills that void of what I wanna be. I’m gonna take you back to
when Jon and Luis testified. Because people need to know their story. Myself and couple others,
we got to handpick who would testify that day. I could have testified, but
too much John Feal’s no good. And that’s why I pick and
choose where I’m gonna talk. But we chose those people, and then when we asked Jon to do it, Jon said absolutely. So the whole week leading up to that Jon was writing his testimony, and he was emailin’ it to me and he’d say, “What do you think of this?” And I’d say, “Oh my god, that’s great.” But why would the world’s
best sit down comedian who was on The Daily Show for 16 years who has a gift of
articulating and using satire to make a point, why would
you write any thing down? The six people before you
are gonna write speeches, they’re gonna be nervous, and they’re gonna slur their words. Don’t follow that. Be yourself, be authentic. Jon’s response was, “yeah, I
just don’t wanna screw this up. “I don’t wanna fail the guys.” And that all week, I
don’t wanna fail the guys. I don’t wanna fail the guys. And all week I pestered
him and I pestered him. Then two days before we were going to D.C. Ray Pfeifer, my dear friend
who passed away two years ago, they were doing his annual golf outing, and Ray’s brother put his bunker gear, his coat up for auction. And I made sure nobody outbid me. And that jacket cost me $7,000. That was the best $7,000 I ever spent. And then I said now get this to D.C. to me by tomorrow ’cause Jon’s comin’. And I wanted Jon to have that jacket. And my 40 guys that were
waiting there for Jon all signed the jacket saying
thank you, I love you, to Jon. But before I took Jon and I met him outside of the Rayburn Building in D.C. After pestering him all night
I knew I had to get to him. And I wrote Jon a letter on my letterhead, and it said, “Dear Jon, “this is my first
official Dear John letter “in 52 years on this planet. “I miss and I love my mother dearly. “I miss and I love Ray dearly. “Don’t ever make me miss you
’cause I love you dearly.” And he started hysterical crying, and I cried with him. And I knew I was eventually
gonna get the Jon that I wanted. And then we took him inside. When we got there they were waiting in the hallway with the
jacket, and he lost it. So when everybody went
into the committee room, they sequestered us off into a side room. Jon was still going over his speech, and I said, “Dude, put that away. “Just put it away.” He’s like, “Yeah, I’m thinkin’ about it.” And he’s tappin’ his
pen, he’s writing notes. I said, “I’m tellin’ you.” I said, “I will kick your ass. “Put that shit away.” When they called us out there
everybody started testifying. And I was texting Jon. So if you watch the whole
video of that hearing you’ll see me and Jon communicating a lot by whispering, by texting, and I was just getting under his skin. I said, look, there’s
no members of Congress. Look at everybody in back of you. They all came down here. They drove down 95 with their illness. Members of Congress are sitting down for 30 seconds to say they
were there and leaving. Jon was getting agitated. Jon was getting pissed. When Luis Alvarez gave
his passionate testimony, I stood up and everybody followed, and we gave him a standing ovation. And then I very politely
just went to Jon and said, “You’re gonna follow that
by a written testimony?” I said, “You have a responsibility now. “You’re not worrying
about failing the guys, “but doing what you do best.” So when we sat down, Jon
rolled up his speech, he tapped the table, and he turned it off and on. He just, he went into
Daily Show Jon Stewart. And it was majestic. It was like watching Nadia
Comaneci perfect 10 in 1976. I’m aging myself there. To watch what he did. ‘Cause he not only chastised a chamber of the United States government. He also articulated our pain
and suffering of 18 years, our frustration and our everything in one. And in less than 10 minutes he changed the direction of what we were doing. – [Maria] But like we’ve
mentioned throughout this video, although the bill has passed, there is still more work to be done. – Rich and John and I, last year, we went to the University of Scranton, and one of the professors
there has a college course, teaches the students about 9/11, and the process that we went
through going through D.C. It’d be great to see more
universities and colleges have programs like that, especially now that our
first student this year, because she’s having the course again, was born after 9/11. So it is becoming historical. So whoever may view this,
if they’re an educator, it’d be great to have that expand. – Luis and Jon Stewart testified in a judiciary committee on June 11th. ‘Til the day we got the
bill passed on July 29th, we lost like 24 people. It was one of the most crushing months for the 9/11 community. Nobody really talks about it because everyone was (voice muffled), and oh my god you guys got a bill passed. But right now, too many
people still suffer, too many people still need help, too many people don’t even
know what they’re entitled to, which is another part of
what we’re doing, too, and you guys have a responsibility now. You’re interviewing us, so you
are now an educational tool for whoever watches this, and the people that are watching this, they now have a responsibility. Hey, were you at the Pentagon? Were you at Shanksville? Were you at Ground Zero? If you were there for that many hours, if you were there, or if you know somebody who was there, go to the website, go to
the CDC, World Trade Center, go to one of these websites,
and get the help that you need and deserve and earned. Because it’s the federal
government, they suck, and this is not, this is the rest of your life. I can say that, I don’t care. I’ve said worse. – [Maria] As it pertains to the new bill, the exposure area differs for the World Trade Center Health Program and the Victim Compensation Fund. The Health Program employs
a broader definition that encompasses the area of Manhattan south of Houston Street
and any block in Brooklyn that’s within a one and a half mile radius of the World Trade Center. The fund covers a smaller exposure area defined as the region in
Manhattan south of Canal Street. Any responders or survivors
that were in that area between September 11,
2001, and May 30, 2002, are eligible to apply. – As the outreach portion, and what I use a lot
this time around in D.C. There was a study with
head and neck cancers done by Robert Wood Johnson Cancer, the center down in New Jersey. There’s a 40% increase
in head and neck cancers. – [Maria] The reality
is that while these men are all advocates and
leaders in the movement to help the 9/11 community,
they’re all data, too. – Myself, Rich, Tom, Matt, we’re data. They’re gonna use us as a model of what happens in an
environmental disaster, what happens over the long-term effects of the children born to us. What happens to our spouses. What happens to Matt’s
heart or Richard’s kidneys. And now they have 18 years
of hard science and data. – One of the difficult things I think, as a 9/11 responder we all go through it. There’s this feeling of
when is it gonna be my turn. If you ask any New York City fire fighter they’re pretty much all convinced that they’re gonna pass away
as a result of a 9/11 cancer. And it’s something that
sits in the back of, I think, everybody’s mind, but it’s a lot easier for us to push it to the back of our minds in the sense of, all right well, you’re gonna
live your life every day, as John said. You only die once, you
live every single day. So we’re gonna live every single day. – If I’m predicting my
own death it’s gonna be a heart attack and
I’m in really good shape. But my heart just cannot stand
that much pain and suffering. And I think my heart will give up. I pray I don’t get 9/11 cancer, but if I did I don’t
think I’d be strong enough like a Lou Alvarez or a John
MnNamara or a Tom Wilson. – [Maria] My time in New York taught me that courage and sacrifice
in the face of adversity can come at an unfathomable price. But for someone looking
to make a difference, a tragedy can be the start of
something much bigger than us. Like a phoenix rising from the ashes, these heroes continue to live their truths and tell their stories, not
only for the good of humanity, but also to make sure that
history does not repeat itself. – I don’t think anybody could have lived my 18 years, anybody. I really don’t. I was programmed for this. My mindset before and after
allowed me to be here today. And I fought myself the
whole way getting here. – What do you attribute a lot of that before to?
– My mother, my mother. Everything’s my mother. The reason why I’m sitting here talking to you today is
my mother, nobody else. No father, no brother,
no sister, no uncle. No words of advice from
my kindergarten teacher or the lady at CVS. No priest. No higher calling. My mother, that’s it. Yeah. I think of her every day. My mother raised a
really good fucking kid. And I hope she’s proud of me. I’ll find out. I’ve been a loner, an
introvert my whole life. When you guys leave
here I’ll take a shower, I’ll crawl up into a ball, I’m not even making this up. I’ll take a shower, I’ll
get 9/11 out of my system. And I’ll go visit my
park later with my dog. Everything I do is intimate. I can’t give you a fake John. I have to be me. Whether your viewers who are watching this are gonna like me or not, you got me authentic. You got me sincere and intimate. And I wouldn’t have it any other way. I invited you into my house. I’ve been interviewed
by enough people to know that I don’t like 90% of them. – Do you like us? – I’m still weighing the options on that. – Okay, all right.
– Yeah, good? All right.

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