Lin-Manuel Miranda Talks “Hamilton,” New York And His Influences

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PLEASE WELCOME, LIN-MANUEL
MIRANDA. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
♪ ♪ ♪( CHEERS ).>>Stephen: WOW.>>OH, THANK YOU FOR MAKING ME
FEEL WELCOME WITH MUSIC OF MY PEOPLE.>>Stephen: ABSOLUTELY. THEY MAKE EVERYBODY FEEL
WELCOME.>>IT’S JUST LIKE I’M IN
WASHINGTON HEIGHT. THANK YOU.>>Stephen: YOU’RE MOST
WELCOME. ME THEATER ES TINGS TU THEATER. THAT’S THE EXTENT OF MY SPANISH. IT’S REALLY EXCITING TO HAVE YOU
ON. “HAMILTON–” AND THIS IS NO
SURPRISE TO YOU– COMPLETELY BLEW ME AWAY.>>THANK YOU VERY MUCH.>>Stephen: HAVE ANY OF YOU
SEEN IT? ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE ).>>Stephen: IT’S HARD TO GET
TICKETS. YOU MIGHT BE A GOOD GUY TO ASK. COULD YOU GET US 400 TICKETS TO
“HAMILTON”?>>LOOK UNDER YOUR CHAIRS! IF I HAD THAT OPRAH POWER, I
WOULD DO IT.>>Stephen: YOU GREW UP AS,
LIKE, A THEATER KID. YOU LOVED MUSICALS GROWING UP,
RIGHT?>>YES, YES.>>Stephen: FOR ME I WENT AND
SAW IT AND I WENT EYE DIDN’T REALLY KNOW WHAT TO EXPECT. I HEARD GOOD THINGS. MY FIRST REACTION WAS THIS IS
VERY GOOD. THIS IS VERY INTERESTING. I WONDER HOW LONG THEY CAN
SUSTAIN THIS. AND THEN YOU GO OH, THIS IS
ACTUALLY QUITE MAGNIFICENT. AND THEN TWO HOURS LATER, I’M
GOING, “WHY AM I CRYING OVER ALEXANDER HAMILTON?”
IS THAT A COMMON REACTION?>>IT IS A COMMON REACTION. I THINK A LOT OF PEOPLE THINK
IT’S GOING TO BE SORT OF VERY CLEVER, AND THEY’RE GOING TO BE
LOTS OF KNOWING WINKS, BUT ALEXANDER HAMILTON HAD THIS
REALLY FULL AND TRAGIC AMERICAN LIFE.>>Stephen: HERE IN NEW YORK.>>HERE IN NEW YORK CITY. AND HE’S KIND OF THE NEW YORK
FOUNDING FATHER.>>Stephen: HOW DO YOU FEEL
NOW THAT HAMILTON’S GOING TO COME OFF THE 10 DOLLAR BILL?>>I DON’T THINK HE IS.>>Stephen: REALLY? THE PLAN WAS TO TAKE HIM OFF BY
2017. DO YOU THINK YOU SINGLEHANDEDLY
HAVE KEPT HIM ON THE BILL?>>I DON’T THINK I HAVE.>>Stephen: I THINK YOU HAVE. HONEST TO GOD, UP UNTIL YOUR
MUSIC, WHO TALKED ABOUT ALEXANDER HAMILTON? PEOPLE THOUGHT HE WAS A
PRESIDENT, BUT HE WAS NEVER A PRESIDENT.>>NO, HE WAS JUST A GUY ON THE
10. BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE HAVE
ALWAYS UNDERESTIMATED ALEXANDER HAMILTON. I PICTURE THE GHOST OF HAMILTON
BEING LIKE, “I’M NOT COMING OFF THAT MONEY. I HAVE MORE THINGS TO SAY.”>>Stephen: HE INVENTED THE
MONEY.>>HE CREATED OUR FINANCIAL
SYSTEM. LIKE, ONE GUY CREATED OUR
FINANCIAL SYSTEM.>>Stephen: IT’S NOT JUST
LEARNING ABOUT HAMILTON, BUT YOU’RE SEEING NEW YORK HAS THIS
AMAZING COLONIAL HISTORY. YOU DON’T THINK WE’RE LIVING IN
A COLONIAL TOWN. I GREW UP IN CHARLESTON, SOUTH
CAROLINA, WHICH IS LIKE COLONIAL UNDER GLASS. YOU’RE NOT ALLOWED TO CHANGE
ANYTHING. BUT NEW YORK IS ALWAYS MAKING
HISTORY BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE HAMILTON.>>TOTALLY. WHAT WAS AMAZING ABOUT WRITE IT
IT, YOU KNOW, I’M A BORN AND BRED NEW YORKER AND I LOVE NEW
YORK BUT I DIDN’T HAVE TO GO VERY FAR. MY FIRST MUSICAL WAS ABOUT
WASHINGTON HEIGHTS– HEY! AND THERE’S LOTS OF STUFF– I
MEAN, FORT TYRON PARK WHERE WHERE SHE MADE HIS LAST STANCE
BEFORE HE BOUNCED WITH HIS TROOPS IS RIGHT UPTOWN. HIS FIRST HEADQUARTERS IS ON
162nd STREET, WHERE AARON BURR LIVED FAIR YEAR. HE MARRIED THE OWNER OF THAT
HOUSE, ELIJAH JAMLE, WHEN HE WAS LIKE, 60. HE TOOK ALL HER MONEY AND
BOUNCED.>>
>>Stephen: HE WAS A GIGOLO?>>SHE WAS A VERY NOTORIOUS
LADY. SHE MARRIED HIM FOR HIS
NOTORIETY. HE WAS FAMOUS FOR HAVING SHOT
HOME BOY. ( LAUGHTER ).>>Stephen: AS HIS FRIENDS
CALLED HIM.>>AS HIS FRIENDS CALLED THIM. HE USED TO WALK AROUND AND SAY,
“MY FRIEND ALEXANDER HAMILTON, WHO I SHOT.”>>Stephen: DID IT BOTHER HIM
FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE?>>YEAH, HE WAS SORT OF A
HAUNTED DUDE FOR THE REST OF HIS LIFE. HE MAY HAVE TRIED TO GO ANNEX
MEXICO AND DECLARE HIMSELF EMPEROR. THERE MIGHT BE A SEQUEL IN THE
WORKS. I MEAN, HE HAS THIS WHOLE CRAZY
OTHER LIFE. BUT, YEAH, HE MARRIED THIS LADY
ON 162nd, LIKE, SORT OF BILKED HER FOR ALL HER MONEY AND
THEN, LIKE, FLED TO EUROPE.>>Stephen: ONE OF THE AMAZING
SONGS TO ME IS THE ROOM WHERE IT HAPPENED. AND THAT’S BURR, WANTING TO BE
IN THE ROOM WHERE A DEAL IS BEING CUT BETWEEN HAMILTON AND
JEFFERSON AND MADISON, RIGHT? I DO HAVE THAT RIGHT?>>YES, WHICH SOUNDS SO BORING,
DOESN’T IT? BUT–
>>Stephen: THEY’RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHERE THE BANKS GO
AND THE CAPITOL GOES.>>HAMILTON BASICALLY SAID WE
CAN TRADE AWAY THE CAPITAL OF THE UNITED STATES TO BE DOWN
NEAR YOU GUYS IN VIRGINIA IF YOU PASS MY DEBT PLAN, IF YOU FIND
THE DOATS VOETS TO PASS MY FINANCIAL PLAN. WHICH SOUNDS SUPER DRY —
>>YOU WROTE A BROADWAY SHOW ABOUT CREATING A FINANCIAL PLAN
FOR THE UNITED STATES.>>YEAH. YEAH. AND IT SWINGS, BABY, IT SWINGS.>>Stephen: IT DOES! I JUST WANT TO SAY, YOU, SIR,
HAVE GOT SOME HUEVOS RANCHEROS. IT TAKES BALLS TO WRITE THIS
KIND OF MUSICAL. ONE OF MY FAVORITE CHARACTERS IS
LAFAYETTE, AND ONE OF THE THINGS THAT’S AMAZING, HITS YOU IN THE
FACE WITH THE HISTORY OF NEW YORK, YOU STARTED THIS THING IN
THE PUBLIC THEATER SO YOU GO IN AND SEE SOMEONE PLAYING
LAFAYETTE AND HOW IMPORTANT HE WAS TO THE REVOLUTIONARY CAUSE
AND YOU WALK OUT ON TO LAFAYETTE STREET IN NEW YORK CITY.>>AND YOU CAN’T HELP BUT SING
IT– ♪ LAFAYETTE ♪
THE FUN THING WE DID DONETSK WITH LAFAYETTE IS HE KIND OF
STRUGGLING WITH THE LANGUAGE AT THE BEGINNING OF ACT ONE AND AT
THE END OF ACT ONE HE’S A COMMANDER AND HAS THE FASTEST
RAP IN THE SHOW. I CALL IT THE “POLICE ACADEMY
RULED.” REMEMBER THE LITTLE LADY IN THE,
“POLICE ACADEMY” MOVIES. SHE’D SAY, “PLEASE GO.” AND THEN, “FREEZE CIRC.” THAT’S KIND OF WHAT WE DID WITH
LAFAYETTE. HE GOES, “I DON’T SPEAK YOUR
LANGUAGE.” AND THEN, “I’M TAKING THIS HORSE
WITH THE RED COATS AND BLOOD STAINS!”
I’M JUST STEALING FROM “POLICE ACADEMY.”>>Stephen: THE SAME ACTOR WHO
PLACE LAFAYETTE PLAYS JEFFERSON. WHAT’S HIS NAME.>>DAVEED DIGGS, A FORCE OF
NATURE.>>Stephen: THERE IS RAP
BATTLES BETWEEN HAMILTON AND JEFFERSON IN FRONT OF WASHINGTON
TRYING TO DETERMINE THINGS LIKE DO THEY SUPPORT PARIS? DO THEY PASS A DEBT PLAN? WE HAVE A LITTLE CLIP AIR, SMALL
CLIP OF WHAT THAT’S LIKE TO WATCH THESE RAP BATTLES ?EET IN
VIRGINIA WE PLANT SEEDS IN THE GROUND. WE CREATE. YOU JUST WANT TO MOVE OUR MONEY
AROUND. THIS FINANCIAL PLAN IS AN
OUTRAGEOUS DEMAND AND THERE ARE TOO MANY DAMN PAGES FOR ANY MAN
TO UNDERSTAND.>>THOMAS, THAT WAS A REAL NICE
DECLARATION. WELCOME TO THE PRESENT. WE’RE RUNNING A REAL NATION. WOULD YOU LIKE TO JOIN US OR
STAY MAD DOING WHATEVER THE HELL IT IS YOU DO IN MONTICELLO. A CIVICS LESSON FROM SLAVER. HEY, NEIGHBOR, YOUR DEBTS ARE
PAID BECAUSE YOU DON’T PAY FOR LABOR. WE PLANT SEEDS IN THE SOUTH. WE CREATE. KEEP RANTING. WE KNOW WHO’S REALLY DOING THE
PLANTING. ( CHEERS AND APPLAUSE )
>>HIS SLAVES. HIS SLAVES.>>Stephen: YOU TALK ABOUT
SLAVES, EXACTLY. NOW, AGAIN, THIS IS, LIKE,
NOTHING I HAVE EVER SEEN. AND IT’S BEAUTIFUL AND IT’S
REALLY MOVING. DID YOU HAVE THIS KIND OF
EXPERIENCE? WHAT WAS THE THING THAT YOU SAW
WHEN YOU WERE YOUNGER THAT COMPLETELY BLEW YOU AWAY AND YOU
SAID, “I HAVE TO DO THAT.”>>IT WAS A COUPLE OF THINGS. THE FIRST MUSICAL I EVER SAW ON
BROADWAY– WE DEPARTMENT HAVE MONEY FOR A TON OF MUSICALS. I WAS A CAST ALBUM GUY. MY MOM USED TO BLAST “MAN OF LA
MANCHA” AND “CAMELOT.” SO. ♪ THEY FOUND GENOVERE ♪
>>Stephen: I AM DON QUIXOTE, THE LORD OFULA MAWRCHA.>>MY DESTINY CALLS, AND I GO. YES I’M SARCHLE. I FOLLOW MY MASTER TILL THE END.>>Stephen: WE SHOULD TAKE IT
ON THE ROAD.>>LET’S GO. THIS THING IS READY TO GO. THEN “LES MIS” WAS THE FIRST ONE
I EVER SAW AND I REMEMBER THE EFFECT IT HAD ON MY PARENTS,
ACTUALLY. THEY BROUGHT HOME THAT CAST
ALBUM AND EVERY TIME THEY PLAYED “BRING HIM HOME” MY MOM STARTED
CRYING AND I THINK THAT’S WHAT WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR ME WRITING
MUSICALS IS THE EFFECT IT HAD ON MY FAMILY. “PHANTOM” WAS THE SECOND MUSICAL
ABOUT AN UGLY SONGWRITER WHO WANTS TO GET GIRLS TO NOTICE
HIM. AND I WAS LIKE, “I KNOW ALL
ABOUT THAT. I’M ON THE CUMS OF PUBERTY. THIS PHANTOM’S GOT SOME GOOD
IDEAS.” ( LAUGHTER ).>>Stephen: IF YOU COULD STICK
AROUND FAIR LITTLE BIT MORE?>>YES.>>Stephen: STICK AROUND. WE’LL BE RIGHT BACK WITH MORE
LIN-MANUEL MIRANDA.

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