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>>>WELCOME BACK TO “VELSHI AND>>>WELCOME BACK TO “VELSHI AND RUHLE.” RUHLE.” NEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUSINESS NEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BUSINESS AND PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS OF AND PERSONAL RELATIONSHIPS OF REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER JEFFREY REGISTERED SEX OFFENDER JEFFREY EPSTEIN, WHO WAS CHARGED LAST EPSTEIN, WHO WAS CHARGED LAST MONTH WITH SEX TRAFFICKING OF MONTH WITH SEX TRAFFICKING OF MINORS. MINORS. EPSTEIN HAS PLEADED NOT GUILTY EPSTEIN HAS PLEADED NOT GUILTY AND ACCORDING TO HIS FILING MADE AND ACCORDING TO HIS FILING MADE THIS MORNING HIS ATTORNEY SAYS THIS MORNING HIS ATTORNEY SAYS THEY WILL APPEAL TO THE JUDGE’S THEY WILL APPEAL TO THE JUDGE’S DECISION TO DENY HIM BAIL. DECISION TO DENY HIM BAIL. IN A CLOSE LOOK AT EPSTEIN’S IN A CLOSE LOOK AT EPSTEIN’S CIRCLE, “NEW YORK” MAGAZINE CIRCLE, “NEW YORK” MAGAZINE EXAMINES THE, QUOTE, CESS POOL EXAMINES THE, QUOTE, CESS POOL OF ELITES MANY IN NEW YORK WHO OF ELITES MANY IN NEW YORK WHO ALLOWED JEFFREY EPSTEIN TO ALLOWED JEFFREY EPSTEIN TO FLOURISH WITH IMPUNITY INCLUDING FLOURISH WITH IMPUNITY INCLUDING FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON AND OUSTED CBS ANCHOR CHARLIE AND OUSTED CBS ANCHOR CHARLIE ROSE. ROSE. JOINING ME NOW THE DEPUTY EDITOR JOINING ME NOW THE DEPUTY EDITOR OF “NEW YORK” MAGAZINE DAVID OF “NEW YORK” MAGAZINE DAVID WALLACE WELLS. WALLACE WELLS. DAVID, I MUST READ THIS. DAVID, I MUST READ THIS. VERY TOP OF THE ARTICLE. VERY TOP OF THE ARTICLE. THIS QUOTE IS STUNNING TO ME. THIS QUOTE IS STUNNING TO ME. FOR DECADES, IMPORTANT, FOR DECADES, IMPORTANT, INFLUENTIAL, SERIOUS PEOPLE INFLUENTIAL, SERIOUS PEOPLE ATTENDED EPSTEIN’S DINNER ATTENDED EPSTEIN’S DINNER PARTIES, RODE HIS PRIVATE JET, PARTIES, RODE HIS PRIVATE JET, AND FURTHERED THE FICTION THAT AND FURTHERED THE FICTION THAT HE WAS SOME KIND OF GENIUS HEDGE HE WAS SOME KIND OF GENIUS HEDGE FUND BILLIONAIRE. FUND BILLIONAIRE. THERE IS A LONG LIST OF ELITES. THERE IS A LONG LIST OF ELITES. SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN NEW YORK. IN NEW YORK. WHY IS IT, HOW IS THAT THIS GUY WHY IS IT, HOW IS THAT THIS GUY WAS ABLE TO GET SO MANY OF THEM WAS ABLE TO GET SO MANY OF THEM IN HIS WEB? IN HIS WEB?>>I THINK IT’S A COMPLICATED>>I THINK IT’S A COMPLICATED QUESTION AND I DON’T ACTUALLY QUESTION AND I DON’T ACTUALLY FEEL LIKE WE KNOW THE ANSWER FEEL LIKE WE KNOW THE ANSWER YET. YET. I THINK THE STORY IS STILL VERY I THINK THE STORY IS STILL VERY MUCH BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. MUCH BEHIND CLOSED DOORS. WE DON’T YET TOTALLY UNDERSTAND WE DON’T YET TOTALLY UNDERSTAND HOW EPSTEIN MADE HIS MONEY. HOW EPSTEIN MADE HIS MONEY. HE’S SAID TO BE A HEDGE FUND HE’S SAID TO BE A HEDGE FUND MANAGER BUT WE ONLY KNOW HE EVER MANAGER BUT WE ONLY KNOW HE EVER HAD ONE CLIENT WHO DROPPED HIM HAD ONE CLIENT WHO DROPPED HIM 15 YEARS AGO. 15 YEARS AGO. NOBODY ON WALL STREET HAS ANY NOBODY ON WALL STREET HAS ANY MEMORY OF ANY DEALINGS WITH HIM MEMORY OF ANY DEALINGS WITH HIM AT ALL. AT ALL. THERE IS SOME THOUGHT HE MAY THERE IS SOME THOUGHT HE MAY HAVE BEEN SETTING UP TAX HAVE BEEN SETTING UP TAX SHELTERS FOR SOME OF THESE SHELTERS FOR SOME OF THESE BILLIONAIRES, SOME THOUGHT HE BILLIONAIRES, SOME THOUGHT HE MAY HAVE BEEN TRAFFICKING IN MAY HAVE BEEN TRAFFICKING IN SAUDI MONEY BECAUSE HE HAS SAUDI MONEY BECAUSE HE HAS RELATIONSHIPS IN SAUDI ARABIA. RELATIONSHIPS IN SAUDI ARABIA. THERE WAS EVEN AN IMPLICATION THERE WAS EVEN AN IMPLICATION KIND OF UNFOUNDED HE MAY HAVE KIND OF UNFOUNDED HE MAY HAVE SOME INTELLIGENCE RELATIONSHIP SOME INTELLIGENCE RELATIONSHIP WITH ISRAEL OR THE U.S. WITH ISRAEL OR THE U.S. I DON’T THINK WE KNOW YET THE I DON’T THINK WE KNOW YET THE NATURE OF THESE RELATIONSHIPS NATURE OF THESE RELATIONSHIPS BUT IT IS CLEAR HE HAD NOT ONLY BUT IT IS CLEAR HE HAD NOT ONLY SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE SOME OF THE MOST POWERFUL PEOPLE IN NEW YORK BUT IN THE WORLD. IN NEW YORK BUT IN THE WORLD. PRINCE ANDREW FROM THE UK. PRINCE ANDREW FROM THE UK. NOW, THE NATURE OF THESE NOW, THE NATURE OF THESE RELATIONSHIPS IS SIMILARLY RELATIONSHIPS IS SIMILARLY UNCLEAR. UNCLEAR. HE SEEMED TO HAVE A SOCIAL HE SEEMED TO HAVE A SOCIAL RELATIONSHIP WITH MANY OF THESE RELATIONSHIP WITH MANY OF THESE PEOPLE ALMOST ALL OF WHOM ARE PEOPLE ALMOST ALL OF WHOM ARE MEN. MEN. SOME WERE AT PARTIES WHERE SOME SOME WERE AT PARTIES WHERE SOME KIND OF UNSEEMLY THINGS WERE KIND OF UNSEEMLY THINGS WERE HAPPENING. HAPPENING. IT’S NOT CLEAR WHICH OF THEM IT’S NOT CLEAR WHICH OF THEM WERE INVOLVED TO WHAT DEGREE, WERE INVOLVED TO WHAT DEGREE, WHO MAY BE IMPLICATED BEYOND WHO MAY BE IMPLICATED BEYOND JUST HAVING A FRIENDSHIP JUST HAVING A FRIENDSHIP RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM. RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM. FOR ME, THE QUESTION IS, HOW DID FOR ME, THE QUESTION IS, HOW DID SO MANY PEOPLE ESPECIALLY AFTER SO MANY PEOPLE ESPECIALLY AFTER HE PLED GUILTY TO SOLICITING HE PLED GUILTY TO SOLICITING PROSTITUTION IN 2008, HOW DID SO PROSTITUTION IN 2008, HOW DID SO MANY OF THESE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO MANY OF THESE PEOPLE CONTINUE TO ASSOCIATE WITH HIM IN THE YEARS ASSOCIATE WITH HIM IN THE YEARS SINCE? SINCE? HE HAS BEEN REALLY INVOLVED WITH HE HAS BEEN REALLY INVOLVED WITH HARVARD FUNDING A LOT OF THEIR HARVARD FUNDING A LOT OF THEIR SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH. SCIENTIFIC RESEARCH. HE’S BEEN A MAJOR FIXTURE IN THE HE’S BEEN A MAJOR FIXTURE IN THE NEW YORK SOCIAL WORLD SINCE NEW YORK SOCIAL WORLD SINCE PEGGY SIEGEL HAS BEEN THROWING PEGGY SIEGEL HAS BEEN THROWING PARTIES FOR HIM — PARTIES FOR HIM –>>WHAT HAS BEEN THE ARGUMENT>>WHAT HAS BEEN THE ARGUMENT FROM THESE PEOPLE? FROM THESE PEOPLE? IF I’M THE FOUNDER OF APOLLO AND IF I’M THE FOUNDER OF APOLLO AND I HAVE ACCESS TO THE MOST I HAVE ACCESS TO THE MOST SOPHISTICATED TAX PREPARERS ON SOPHISTICATED TAX PREPARERS ON THE PLANET, WHAT IS THE THE PLANET, WHAT IS THE RATIONALE BEING GIVEN BY SOME OF RATIONALE BEING GIVEN BY SOME OF THESE LUMINARIES AS TO WHY THESE LUMINARIES AS TO WHY EXACTLY JEFFREY EPSTEIN WAS IN EXACTLY JEFFREY EPSTEIN WAS IN THEIR LIFE OFTEN WHEN IT IS A THEIR LIFE OFTEN WHEN IT IS A GENIUS INVESTOR THEY COULD POINT GENIUS INVESTOR THEY COULD POINT TO IT AND SAY, JOHN PAULSON IS TO IT AND SAY, JOHN PAULSON IS THE GODFATHER OF THE SUB PRIME THE GODFATHER OF THE SUB PRIME TRADE. TRADE. HE MADE ME ALL OF THIS MONEY. HE MADE ME ALL OF THIS MONEY. WHAT IS THE EXPLANATION FROM WHAT IS THE EXPLANATION FROM THESE PEOPLE? THESE PEOPLE?>>MOSTLY THEY’VE PLED IGNORANCE>>MOSTLY THEY’VE PLED IGNORANCE AND ACTUALLY DON’T HAVE AND ACTUALLY DON’T HAVE FINANCIAL RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE FINANCIAL RELATIONSHIPS THAT WE KNOW OF TO HIM. KNOW OF TO HIM. AS I SAID, THERE IS ONLY ONE AS I SAID, THERE IS ONLY ONE PERSON WE KNOW EVER HAD HIS PERSON WE KNOW EVER HAD HIS MONEY MANAGED BY JEFFREY EPSTEIN MONEY MANAGED BY JEFFREY EPSTEIN AND THAT IS LES WEXNER THE AND THAT IS LES WEXNER THE FOUNDER OF VICTORIA’S SECRET FOUNDER OF VICTORIA’S SECRET AMONG OTHER THINGS AND KIND OF AMONG OTHER THINGS AND KIND OF EPSTEIN’S PATRON AND GAVE EPSTEIN’S PATRON AND GAVE EPSTEIN THE HOME HE LIVES IN EPSTEIN THE HOME HE LIVES IN WHICH IS THE BIGGEST HOUSE IN WHICH IS THE BIGGEST HOUSE IN ALL OF NEW YORK CITY. ALL OF NEW YORK CITY.>>HAS HE GIVEN ANY RATIONALE>>HAS HE GIVEN ANY RATIONALE BEHIND WHY WOULD HE GIVE HIM A BEHIND WHY WOULD HE GIVE HIM A HOME THAT IS NOW VALUED AT –? HOME THAT IS NOW VALUED AT –?>>$77 MILLION.>>$77 MILLION.>>– $77 MILLION.>>– $77 MILLION.>>NO.>>NO. IT’S A QUITE MURKY STORY. IT’S A QUITE MURKY STORY. HE MADE A STATEMENT TO HIS HE MADE A STATEMENT TO HIS EMPLOYEES LAST WEEK. EMPLOYEES LAST WEEK.>>WHICH WAS?>>WHICH WAS?>>JUST THAT I CUT OFF MY>>JUST THAT I CUT OFF MY RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM AFTER RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM AFTER HE — THE CRIMES CAME OUT IN HE — THE CRIMES CAME OUT IN 2008 BUT GAVE NO FULL ACCOUNTING 2008 BUT GAVE NO FULL ACCOUNTING WHY THEY HAD A RELATIONSHIP IN WHY THEY HAD A RELATIONSHIP IN THE FIRST PLACE OR WHAT THE THE FIRST PLACE OR WHAT THE NATURE OF THE RELATIONSHIP WAS. NATURE OF THE RELATIONSHIP WAS. IT IS VERY UNCLEAR AND IT IS IT IS VERY UNCLEAR AND IT IS QUITE POSSIBLE AS THE CRIMINAL QUITE POSSIBLE AS THE CRIMINAL PROCEEDING GOES FORWARD WE LEARN PROCEEDING GOES FORWARD WE LEARN A LOT MORE. A LOT MORE. IT IS ESPECIALLY NOTABLE THAT IT IS ESPECIALLY NOTABLE THAT THE CHARGES WERE BROUGHT BY THE THE CHARGES WERE BROUGHT BY THE PUBLIC CORRUPTION UNIT OF THE PUBLIC CORRUPTION UNIT OF THE SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF NEW YORK WHICH SUGGESTS THAT AT THE VERY WHICH SUGGESTS THAT AT THE VERY LEAST SOME PUBLIC FIGURES ARE LEAST SOME PUBLIC FIGURES ARE INVOLVED, ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED, ARE GOING TO BE INVOLVED IN THE SCANDAL. INVOLVED IN THE SCANDAL. THEY MAY EVEN IN SOME WAYS BE A THEY MAY EVEN IN SOME WAYS BE A TARGET OF THE INVESTIGATION TARGET OF THE INVESTIGATION THOUGH WE HAVEN’T YET FOUND THAT THOUGH WE HAVEN’T YET FOUND THAT OUT. OUT.>>I WANT TO SHARE A COUPLE>>I WANT TO SHARE A COUPLE NAMES THAT ARE NOTEWORTHY AND NAMES THAT ARE NOTEWORTHY AND NEWS WORTHY BUT WE HAVEN’T HEARD NEWS WORTHY BUT WE HAVEN’T HEARD IN A WHILE. IN A WHILE. PEOPLE MIGHT NOT RELLIZE THEIR PEOPLE MIGHT NOT RELLIZE THEIR RELATIONSHIP WITH JEFFREY RELATIONSHIP WITH JEFFREY EPSTEIN. EPSTEIN. IT’S ABOUT EPSTEIN’S IT’S ABOUT EPSTEIN’S RELATIONSHIP WITH CHARLIE ROSE, RELATIONSHIP WITH CHARLIE ROSE, SAYING EPSTEIN HAD SAYING EPSTEIN HAD RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHOM ROSE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR WHOM ROSE OUGHT TO HIRE AS HIS NEXT OUGHT TO HIRE AS HIS NEXT ASSISTANT. ASSISTANT. WRITTEN CALL LOGS FROM 2005 AND WRITTEN CALL LOGS FROM 2005 AND 2006 SHOW EPSTEIN AND HIS OWN 2006 SHOW EPSTEIN AND HIS OWN ASSISTANT CALLING DOZENS OF ASSISTANT CALLING DOZENS OF TIMES MAKING PLANS FOR LUNCH AND TIMES MAKING PLANS FOR LUNCH AND TEA IN MANHATTAN OR TO TRY TO TEA IN MANHATTAN OR TO TRY TO MEET UP IN PARIS. MEET UP IN PARIS. EPSTEIN ALSO CALLED WITH A TOTAL EPSTEIN ALSO CALLED WITH A TOTAL OF FIVE WOMEN’S NAMES AND PHONE OF FIVE WOMEN’S NAMES AND PHONE NUMBERS. NUMBERS. ONE WOMAN WAS DESCRIBED AS THE ONE WOMAN WAS DESCRIBED AS THE WORLD’S MOST PERFECT ASSISTANT. WORLD’S MOST PERFECT ASSISTANT. SHE USED TO WORK FOR HARVEY SHE USED TO WORK FOR HARVEY WEINSTEIN. WEINSTEIN. HE’S LUCKY IF HE CAN GET HER. HE’S LUCKY IF HE CAN GET HER. ANOTHER ENTRY READS, JEFFREY ANOTHER ENTRY READS, JEFFREY EPSTEIN WANTS TO TALK TO YOU EPSTEIN WANTS TO TALK TO YOU BEFORE YOU CALL THESE TWO GIRLS. BEFORE YOU CALL THESE TWO GIRLS. WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT JEFFREY WHAT DOES IT MEAN THAT JEFFREY EPSTEIN FOUND GIRLS AND THEN EPSTEIN FOUND GIRLS AND THEN RECOMMENDED THEM FOR JOBS FOR RECOMMENDED THEM FOR JOBS FOR PEOPLE LIKE CHARLIE ROSE AND PEOPLE LIKE CHARLIE ROSE AND FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON? FORMER PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON?>>I WANT TO BE CAREFUL AND NOT>>I WANT TO BE CAREFUL AND NOT GO TOO FAR IN SUGGESTING THE GO TOO FAR IN SUGGESTING THE RELATIONSHIP THESE MEN HAD AND RELATIONSHIP THESE MEN HAD AND HOW THEY MANIPULATED AND TOOK HOW THEY MANIPULATED AND TOOK ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THESE WOMEN ADVANTAGE OF SOME OF THESE WOMEN BUT I THINK IT IS CERTAINLY VERY BUT I THINK IT IS CERTAINLY VERY TELLING THERE SEEMED TO HAVE TELLING THERE SEEMED TO HAVE BEEN A QUITE CLOSE NETWORK OF BEEN A QUITE CLOSE NETWORK OF PREDATORY MEN, POWERFUL, PREDATORY MEN, POWERFUL, PREDATORY MEN IN THE NEW YORK PREDATORY MEN IN THE NEW YORK ELITE SOCIAL WORLD WHO WERE IN ELITE SOCIAL WORLD WHO WERE IN SOME SENSE COORDINATING THEIR SOME SENSE COORDINATING THEIR ACTIONS WITH ONE ANOTHER. ACTIONS WITH ONE ANOTHER. WHETHER OR NOT JEFFREY EPSTEIN WHETHER OR NOT JEFFREY EPSTEIN WAS MAKING A TOTALLY ABOVE BOARD WAS MAKING A TOTALLY ABOVE BOARD RECOMMENDATION FOR AN ASSISTANT RECOMMENDATION FOR AN ASSISTANT OR SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE OR SOMETHING A LITTLE MORE SCANDALOUS WE DON’T YET KNOW BUT SCANDALOUS WE DON’T YET KNOW BUT THE FACT THAT THERE WAS THIS THE FACT THAT THERE WAS THIS SHARED ASSOCIATION AND THEY WERE SHARED ASSOCIATION AND THEY WERE TRADING INFORMATION ABOUT THESE TRADING INFORMATION ABOUT THESE YOUNG WOMEN IS, ITSELF, QUITE YOUNG WOMEN IS, ITSELF, QUITE SICKENING. SICKENING.>>NEAR PERFECT ASSISTANT.>>NEAR PERFECT ASSISTANT. SHE WORKED FOR HARVEY WEINSTEIN. SHE WORKED FOR HARVEY WEINSTEIN. WE DID REACH OUT TO CHARLIE WE DID REACH OUT TO CHARLIE ROSE’S TEAM FOR A STATEMENT AND ROSE’S TEAM FOR A STATEMENT AND HAVE NOT HEARD BACK YET. HAVE NOT HEARD BACK YET. PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON’S PRESS PRESIDENT BILL CLINTON’S PRESS SECRETARY DID GIVE US A SECRETARY DID GIVE US A STATEMENT. STATEMENT. I WANT TO SHARE IT. I WANT TO SHARE IT. PRESIDENT CLINTON KNOWS NOTHING PRESIDENT CLINTON KNOWS NOTHING ABOUT THE TERRIBLE CRIMES ABOUT THE TERRIBLE CRIMES JEFFREY EPSTEIN PLEADED GUILTY JEFFREY EPSTEIN PLEADED GUILTY TO IN FLORIDA SOME YEARS AGO OR TO IN FLORIDA SOME YEARS AGO OR THOSE WITH WHICH HE HAS BEEN THOSE WITH WHICH HE HAS BEEN RECENTLY CHARGED IN NEW YORK. RECENTLY CHARGED IN NEW YORK. HE HAS NOT SPOKEN TO EPSTEIN IN HE HAS NOT SPOKEN TO EPSTEIN IN WELL OVER A DECADE AND HAS NEVER WELL OVER A DECADE AND HAS NEVER BEEN TO LITTLE ST. JAMES ISLAND, BEEN TO LITTLE ST. JAMES ISLAND, EPSTEIN’S RANCH IN NEW MEXICO, EPSTEIN’S RANCH IN NEW MEXICO, OR HIS RESIDENCE IN FLORIDA.

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