The New York Times’ Bret Stephens Explains Why He’s Still A ‘NeverTrumper’ | Morning Joe | MSNBC

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>>>JOINING US YOU, BRET STEPHENS. BRET, YOU HAD A COLUMN LAST WEEK A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE TALKING ABOUT ENTITLED WHILE I’M STILL A NEVER TRUMPER. EXPLAIN WHAT YOU ARGUED ESPECIALLY AS IT PERTAINS TO THE NEWS IN THE PAST WEEK.>>IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS DONE ACROSS A NUMBER OF POLICIES, I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH MANY OF THEM. I THINK CORPORATE TAX CUTS ARE A GOOD IDEA. I THINK WE SHOULD BE SPENDING MORE ON THE MILITARY. I FAVORED DECERTIFICATION OF IRAN OR MOVING THE EMBASSY TO JERUSALEM. THOSE ARE POLICY QUESTIONS. BUT THE ESSENCE OF MY NEVER TRUMPISM COMES DOWN TO WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOING TO OUR POLITICAL CULTURE. CONSERVATIVES USED TO CARE ABOUT THE CULTURE. 20 YEARS AGO BILL BENNETT CAME OUT WITH A BOOK CALLED “THE DEATH OF OUTRAGE”. IT WAS DIRECTED AT BILL CLINTON. RIGHT NOW A PRESIDERESIDENT IS CORRODING AND CORRUPTING AND IN SOME RESPECTS DESTROYING OUR CULTURE OF GOVERNANCE. BASIC THINGS, RESPECTING THE OFFICERS AND THE AGENT IS WHO SERVE THEM IN OUR INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY IN THE FBI. EARLIER IN THE PROGRAM YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT LIBEL LAWS, BASIC FUNDAMENTAL RESPONSIBILITY TO PRESERVE AND PROTECT THE CONSTITUTION. THE FACT THAT AS YOU WERE MENTIONING, THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO LIES FIVE TIMES A DAY. HE LIES VOLUNTARILY, INVOLUNTARILY.>>THIS IS NOT NORMAL AND NOT GOOD FOR OUR COUNTRY.>>WHAT WORRIES ME IS THAT TRUMP ISN’T — CONSERVATIVES THINK THEY’RE GOING TO POCKET POLICY VICTORIES AND TRUMP IS GOING TO GO AWAY. TRUMP IS GOING TO CREATE A CULTURE OF GOVERNANCE THAT’S GOING TO STAY WITH US FOR GENERATIONS.>>ALL YOU NEED IS ONE MEMBER OF THE JUDICIAL SYSTEM OR THE INTEL COMMUNITY TO FEEL LIKE HE OR SHE NEEDS TO PROTECT HIMSELF AND TO DO SOMETHING JUST AS BAD BACK, AND THE SYSTEM STARTS TO CRUMBLE.>>AND BRET, AND I DON’T DISAGREE WITH YOUR BELIEF, YOU’VE GOT TO WORRY ABOUT TWO THINGS, DON’T WE? YOU’VE GOT TO WORRY ABOUT HOW LONG WILL IT TAKE IF IT CAN BE DONE TO REPAIR THE DAMAGE THAT IS BEING DONE TO OUR CULTURE RIGHT NOW, AND TWO, HOW DANGEROUS IS IT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE LIKE THE PRESIDENT DOING WHAT THE PRESIDENT IS DOING ON A DAILY BASIS MULTIPLE TIME WHEN THERE ARE SO MANY ACCESSORIES BEFORE AND AFTER THE FACT AND I’M TALKING ABOUT THE REPUBLICANS IN CONGRESS.>>IT’S A GREAT POINT. I THINK THE DAMAGE IS ACTUALLY ALMOST GOING TO BE GENERATIONAL. A CENTURY AGO ARGENTINA WAS ONE OF THE WEALTHIEST AND MOST MODERN COUNTRIES IN THE WORLD. HOW DID THEY GO FROM THAT TO ECONOMIC DECLINE? IT ATTACHED A FAMOUS CULT WHICH LEFT TO RIGHT WING, LEFT WING, MILITARY GOVERNMENTS. AND A SLOW DECLINE. IT’S IRONIC A PRESIDENT WHO WANTS TO BUILD A WALL HAS A STYLE OF POLITICS THAT’S INDICATIVE OF HUGO CHAVEZ.>>WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE POLLING THAT SHOWS ONE YEAR IN HIS LEVEL OF SUPPORT HAS NOT CHANGED A BIT, 36% IN THE ONE POLL. HIS DISAPPROVAL NUMBERS HAVE GONE UP. ARE THERE NEVER TRUMPERS, AS YOU CALL YOURSELF, THAT YOU KNOW WHO HAVE WATCHED THIS FIRST YEAR, AND SAID MAYBE I DON’T LIKE THE GUY, BUT BASED ON THE POLICY THINGS YOU LAID OUT, I’M IN NOW. HE HAS A SUPREME COURT JUSTICE.>>THAT’S ONE OF MY FEARS THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WHO WERE WITH ME THROUGH THE ELECTION AND EVEN IN THE EARLY MONTHS OF THE PRESIDENCY ARE SAYING IT’S ACTUALLY NOT SO BAD. I’M HAPPY WITH THE RESULT. ONE OF THE THINGS IS THAT TRUMP HAS SORT OF INCREASED OUR TOLERANCE FOR WHAT IS ABNORMAL.>>RIGHT.>>HE’S — THEY USED TO TALK ABOUT DEFINING DEVIANCY DOWN.>>LET’S STOP FOR A SECOND. IF BARACK OBAMA HAD SAID IN 2009 I THINK WE NEE NEED TO PULL THE LICENSES OF ALL OF THESE PLACES AND TALK ABOUT A CONSERVATIVE FEDERAL JUDGE IN TEXAS AND — BECAUSE THE JUDGE RULED AGAINST LET’S SAY A SEGMENT OF OBAMA CARE, IF BARACK OBAMA SAID IN 2009 OUR COURT SYSTEM DOESN’T WORK ANYMORE, IT’S A RUN AWAY COURT SYSTEM. WE’VE GOT TO FIX IT, REPUBLICAN WOULD BE FREAKING OUT.>>BY THE WAY, IT’S THE SAME THING WITH BOB MUELLER’S INVESTIGATION. IMAGINE ALL THE FACTS WERE THE SAME BUT INSTEAD OF JARED BEING INVOLVED, IT WAS CHELSEA. IMAGINE HILLARY CLINTON WAS BEING INVESTIGATED FOR RUSSIAN TIES. DO YOU HAVE A MOMENT’S DOUBT THAT REPUBLICANS WOULD BE SKREMING AND SUPPORTING A SPECIAL INVESTIGATION IN THE SAME THEY WAY SUPPORTED KEN STAR’S INVESTIGATION 20 YEARS. WITH KEN STAR, HOW CLINTON GOT IMPEACHED, THE MONICA LEWINSKY SAGA HAD LITTLE TO DO WITH THE INITIAL INVESTIGATION. IT HAD TO DO WITH LAND DEALS IN ARKANSAS.>>BRET, I GUESS THE OPTIMIST’S CASE WOULD BE OUR SYSTEM OF GOVERNANCE IS STRONG ENOUGH TO PRESIDENCY. WHAT SPECIFICALLY DO YOU THINK AT THIS POINT IS IRREVERSIBLE?>>WELL, LOOK, I HOPE THAT THE FOUNDERS ARE RIGHT. I HOPE THAT CHECKS AND BALANCES ULTIMATELY WORK. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS THAT YOU’RE SEEING JUST TALKING ABOUT THE SUBJECT OF CHECKS AND BALANCES IS THE CONGRESS IS NOT PROVIDING THAT. THE CONGRESS AND ALSO OFFICERS IN GOVERNMENT INSTEAD OF BEHAVING LIKE CHECKS ARE BEHAVING LIKE TOADIES. THAT’S BEEN I THINK A SERIOUS KA ROESZIVE QUALITY OF WHAT TRUMP HAS DONE. THIS IS NOT A CONGRESS THAT IS WILLING TO PUSH BACK AGAINST THE PRESIDENT. THINK OF BASIC THINGS. REPUBLICANS USED TO SUPPORT FREE TRADE. NOW WE’RE TALKING ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY OF WALKING AWAY FROM NAFTA.>>BY THE WAY, AFTER ALREADY FORFEITING ASIA TO CHINA.>>THAT’S RIGHT.>>BY GETTING CHINA ONE ADVANTAGE AFTER ANOTHER BY WALKING AWAY FROM THE TRADE DEAL WITH ALL THE OTHER ASIAN PARTNERS.>>LOOK, THE REAL QUESTION IS — THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS WE’RE GOING TO FIND OUT IN 20 YEARS. BUT SOMETHING JUST TO GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE, WHY IS IT THAT NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN WE WANT TV PERSONALITIES TO BECOME PRESIDENTS? I THINK I HAPPEN TO THINK OPRAH NOT SURE SHE’S QUALIFIED TO BE THE PRESIDENT ON THE FIRST GO. NOW PERSONALITIES INSTEAD OF EXPERIENCE OR POLICY JOBS OR A LONG LIFE IN POLITICS SEEM TO BE WHAT POTENTIALLY QUALIFIES YOU FOR A RUN FOR THE PRESIDENCY. AND THAT MAY BE A FUNDAMENTAL CHANGE IN THE SYSTEM.>>POLITICIANS HAVE REALLY LET PEOPLE DOWN AND ABUSED THEIR ROLES AND ENDED UP BEING HYPOCRITICAL ON BOTH SIDES. WE’RE HERE FOR A LONG. THEY JUST WANT TO BELIEVE SOMEBODY.>>THINK OF EVERYONE FROM JOHN McCAIN TO JOE BIDEN TO –>>I UNDERSTAND.>>THERE’S A GREAT TRADITION OF AMERICAN STATES WOMEN AND MEN IN SENATE AND CONGRESS. THEY DEVELOP EXPERTISE OVER TIME. WHAT WE’RE DISCOVERING IS HOW DISASTROUS IT IS WHEN YOU –>>HERE’S A RADICAL IDEA. WHY DOESN’T OPRAH RUN FOR SENATE IN ILLINOIS AND SERVE FOR SIX YEARS AND FIGURE OUT HOW WASHINGTON WORKS?>>THAT WOULD BE GREAT.>>SHE’S A WONDERFUL WOMAN.>>THAT’S WHAT I SAID ABOUT RUBIO. HE WASN’T READY TO BE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES IN 2016. I THOUGHT IT WAS A JOKE. GUESS WHAT. IN 2020, AFTER HE’S BEEN SEASONED BY HOW MANY YEARS WOULD THAT BE?>>10.>>TEN YEARS, HE KNOWS ABOUT THE FRUSTRATIONS OF WASHINGTON. HE’S READY. IF OPRAH WANTS TO BE PRESIDENT, WHY DOESN’T SHE RUN FOR SENATE FIRST?>>THE WAY THE SYSTEM WORKS SHOULD BE PART OF THE EQUATION.>>>COMINGING UP, IN THE WAY TH PRESIDENT IS RIGHT WHEN HE SAYS THERE WAS NO COLLUSION. WHEN YOU DO A SEARCH ON THE WHITE HOUSE WEBSITE FOR MENTIONS OF THE WORD WEALTHIEST, YOU GET MULTIPLE RESULTS. WHEN YOU SEARCH FOR THE WORD COLLUSION, YOU GET ZERO

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  1. He charges an enormous fee for Russians women to go to his motel in Florida to have their babies…thus allowing for Russians to have US citizenship; therefore being able to vote and run for office…
    http://amp.thedailybeast.com/russians-flock-to-trump-properties-to-give-birth-to-us-citizens

  2. Politics is to important to be left up to politicians is what this proves when you see this craziness by the controlling party. There needs to be more transparency and that is probably why Trump got elected. Problem is Trump is incompetent and every one knows this and follows this bankrupt of a man. He was supposed to be a great deal maker. He is a good con artist!

  3. Totally agree on the Oprah. Politics are for politicians, experienced folks. You can't have your first run with politics as president. Just doesn't work!

  4. Yes, Argentina, Venezuela, now US. Americans need immediately take all those Republicans of the White House once and for all.
    Every day is critical.

  5. French President help Airbus sell 180 A320s to China 🇨🇳, (and maybe help save the A380), would you buy anything from Donald Trump or his country? As an Aussie, ‘made in America’ is starting to sound like ‘dodgy brothers’ or con man deal

  6. Hey Bret, YOU ARE A TRUMPER! Wallow in it, eat it. It is you. Your hypocrisy is sickening! You're like the neo-cons who evaded the draft to Vietnam and now send Americans soldiers to do in all parts of our empire.

  7. There is no way back. You can't unscramble eggs, or put tooth paste back in the tube etc. The Pandora's Box of hate and division has been opened.

    Trump is a symptom of a very sick country. It's over. The Empire is dying.

  8. Every time I hear how, 'systematic' he is, I have to laugh a little because I really think he is just following directions. He's a good comrade. (tovarishch?)

  9. Oprah was born into nothing financially and created a business empire using fair business practices. This earned her the loyalty and support of her colleagues and employees. Her commitment to education and to promoting reading is reflective of her open, curious and respectful mind.

    Her career includes a background in journalism, a "regular folk" talk show which made records for ratings, a tv network, a magazine, a founder of schools for girls and the list goes on.

    She used conflicts and controversies to the betterment of all and kept her dignity in the process. She is a natural leader for the Time's Up and MeToo movement because of her own victimization and how she used that as an impetus to hunt and bring to justice, sexual predators.

    Oprah also has decades of experience with positive encounters with leaders around the world while also maintaining a deep connection with people who will never be rich or powerful or famous. She ACTUALLY celebrates and rewards everyday heroes.

    Then there's the obvious… Oprah is female and black – she lives where racism and sexism, both delusional-supremacist ideologies, intersect. This experience has given her the perspective necessary to see the injustices of inequality and we already know through her life, she has worked to advance, "and liberty and justice for ALL."

    The notion that Oprah needs experience in how government works holds less credence every day. We don't need anyone to master how RapePublicKKKlans operate, but Oprah already knows how sexual predators abuse their power and how they maintain it with "a village" of complicit supporters.

    Henry Ford was taken to court. The prosecutor was challenging his intelligence. And, indeed, Ford had only finished 3rd grade but what Ford said was, "hand me a telephone" and within seconds, I will have the answer you want." You see, Ford "had all the best people" AND he was humble enough to know it. THAT, is what Oprah has, too.

    Oprah for President!

  10. GOP is desperate and will be exposed more and more as a party that favors the elite and refuses to share in burdens of society. The problem is there are too many illinformed couch potatos out there who are easily cowed into falsehoods.

  11. Take note, the decline of America and the rise of China and Russia will largely be attributed to trump and the enabling GOP.

  12. How about getting people who have studied how to fly be pilots, and people who have studied medicine be doctors and presidents of an entire nation have experience in politics and law? How about that America.

  13. The way Washington works is what needs to change, on all sides and fronts. Trump is just the result of over half a century of the rights southern strategy at work, and the left helped pave the way in their own ways too.

  14. Its insanity a person can go from being a personality to President. Telling me it's great that an open system allows it is rubbish. Its an open system for those with the money and those with the money are already in bed with existing politicians some where, some how. Stop being niaeve and at least make a person have some experience of politics before being allowed to run the place. Its not rocket science…..Talking of rockets….. Did you ever go there either i wonder? Lol.

  15. Purpose is much more important than experience. The people with most experience in washington usually have the worst purpose. That's why americans like outsiders.

  16. Most of us in NYC are still Nevertrumpers. This guy is a conservative turd but at least one can respect his positions because he understands the rules are important. What he doesn't understand is that he's a dinosaur and his positions are unsustainable – it's impossible to move backwards. It is now up to us to reset new standards.

  17. Great throw Chuck. Statue of Liberty saying is something I live by. It is also a beautiful song,which I sang in High School with our chorus, and THE shower.

  18. 36 percent approval rating which has not changed after one year of this Moron of a President….LOL what a bunch of Losers hypocrites the Trump supporters are…..unbelievable

  19. no corp tax cuts are not good for the people and no we don't need to spend more on the armed Forces unless there social services what they need to do is stay on budget with what they spend on the armed Forces Increase it every year but not like they do, to fix the waste, stop wasting what they do get now .simple basic 101 stop the waste we can do better but Greed overrides begin honest these days.

  20. What about Paul Ryan and Mitch MCConnel, they had all the experience. They are worse than Trump and they are leading him into policies which.are.bad.for the country.They are holding us hostage as they do let the house or Senate to vote on bipartisan policy whiich would satisfy the will of the people.Their ugliness shows on their faces Full stop.

  21. That NYT guys is funny. Does he not realize that all stuff he says he's in favor of is in reality the fertilizer which allows bad weeds like Trump to flourish?
    #FakePresident #Jail4TrumpMafia

  22. Bret Stephens: 100% correct. Too bad the Republican Party does NOT CARE about this country anymore. #NeverRepublican #DeathToGOP #CountryOverParty

  23. I couldn't get past his "more should be spent on the military". Would like to toss him out of plane without a chute. While he's on fire.

  24. How is it 36%of the US population can direct a win? You need to get rid of the Electoral College. Do you run other races this way? If not, why not? If it's such a good system, do you have one for gubernatorial,, mayoral or senate races?

    I know it was created to allow the less populated states a more equal say, but this is ridiculous. A small part of the population can dictate to the majority? That's hardly fair either.

  25. My understanding is that Mr Trump was a Democratic Party supporter almost up until he became the nominee for the Republican Party.
    Perhaps he's the most cunning political plant ever sent in to ruin the Republican Party for perpetuity? Whether that's true or not that's exactly what's happening – the blue wave will be a tsunami in 2018 and in 2020.

  26. I'm wondering 'Does any1 know where the Moral Fibre of Republican Congrass has gone?' Did they All Fly Away on a Private Jet flying over New Drilling Rights on Coastal Waters – Shameful Greed is Killing the Republicans

  27. Plus he’s actively turning citizens against each other – openly punishing Blue States via taxes and off-shore drilling, etc.

  28. As a canadian, i must say i love morning joe because the republican voices on the show are actually making their point in an intelligent way and are based on facts. I don’t agree with them on almost evrything but i can actually understand their point and respect their arguments.

  29. Maybe the president of Normay visited America on Wednesday in the spirit of lasting peach. Or maybe to show the Donald how to wash coal to make it become clean coal? No! There are no mistakes in the above. Do a little digging to find the mistakes from the White House or the Donald himself. Orange man with Trump breath! Sigh! Humanity is teetering! Lol.

  30. "In the criminal convictions contest, the score is Republicans 89 [plus Flynn and Papadopoulos = 91], Democrats 1." http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2017/06/our-score-so-far-republicans-89-democrats-1/

  31. This is what the political class has given us:

    In 1986 median wages for men were standing at 185.2% of per capita GDP.
    By 2015 median wages for men had fallen to 66.2% of per capita GDP, that is a 64.3% loss in earning power over 30 years.

    In 1986 median wages for women were standing at 82.3% of per capita GDP.
    By 2015 median wages for women had fallen to 42.4% of per capita GDP, that is a 51.5% loss in earning power over 30 years.

    We have reality TV stars as president because people know they are falling farther and farther behind. By the way, MSNBC never reports these kinds of vital statistics so the People of the United States understand what has been happening. They report instead that the economy is getting better (really now?) and unemployment is low. That really is false news, not fake news.

  32. It's not just about matters in the political circles, once something is tolerated one time, it becomes easier to swallow them. Someone could say I don't want that Judge with Mexican heritage because I've said some stuff about Mexico and I don't think I'll have a fair trial.
    Or you could be caught saying something objectionable and shrug it off as locker room talk. If someone doesn't agree with you, just call him FAKE or claim alternative facts.
    Or just say things without any basis like I saw people celebrating 9/11 or Obama tapped my phones, and when challenged, just shrug your shoulders and say I don't stand by anything.
    All these, not to mention racism, xenophobia, and general belligerence are becoming acceptable and trickling down into everyday lives.
    Republicans would understand, don't they promote trickle down effect?

  33. Sorry, but Oprah is NOT a "wonderful woman."  She's HORRIBLE!  To her credit, she's not an obvious petty, narcissist, moronic ignoramus like Trump, but that's a pretty low bar.

    Let's not forget that her TV show started out as a Maury Povich-style scandal circus (before she went "legit"), and for years after that — until the end — she promoted every flavor of dangerous, pseudo-scientific nonsense she could find.  Her influential promotion of anti-vaccer Jenny McCarthy alone may have caused untold misery and may have possibly even cost lives.  And don't get me started on her 'protégé,' Dr. Oz — one of the biggest health gimmick hucksters to ever grace the screen.

    I think — I hope — we can do better than Oprah as an alternative to the worst president of our generation.

  34. I love Obama but I wish interviewers would stop using him to push their points, Trump is the President, it's what Trump and the government of now are doing that needs to be the focus. When the same party controls House and Senate, there is no check or balance as Trump and the GOP are constantly demonstrating.

  35. He’s not a trumpet because you’ve all had your head in a box think outside the boC. You don’t care about the American culture actually you re no good for the country. Deport illegals to recover the culture. Get to know trump he’s a decisive man. Trump has discipline, there’s is no procrastination

  36. I'm sick and tired of Mika's comments so frequently being ignored, dismissed, or interrupted. Get in there, Mika!

  37. Early onset of Dementia. Trump is not a mentally healthy man. It only will get worse. His father died of Alzheimers.

  38. I'd like to see an average Joe become president but that's not going to happen because nobody is going to fund his campaign I mean that's the reason why we have celebrities trying to become president they have the money you know the Golden Rule he who has the gold makes the rules

  39. Whitehouse staffers cleaning up with brush and shovel again today. No work again ,just another day of non productive lol

  40. Republicans can smell the formaldehyde and have been incapable of recruiting a younger and broader base. It might not be so outrageous to think they prostrate themselves before this toad because they think they might be able to get him to destroy the democratic process and keep themselves in power by proclamation – Trumps.

  41. …tic, tic, tic… What's the point of talking about it anymore? There's a mountain of evidence in Mueller's office. If that results in charges, the whole landscape changes.

  42. He immediately lost me on: I think corporate tax cuts are good, I support the expansion of the military budget, I support the movement of the embassy to Jerusalem.

  43. Argentina. A perfect example. Do Trumpanzees want an America modelled on what Argentina has become? Well, do you?

  44. Officers, checks, toadies…what's with all the brotherhood prison slang? Haven't the never trumpers neocons noticed their script is filled with "nice Nazi" code words?

  45. Bret, you are a never Trumper because you will always be a globalist-zio puppet…. You are comparing the USA to Argentina? What do you have for brains, Bret? USA is back on a better track: controlling the destructive immigration of 3rd world parasites and low IQ peasants, that will always stay on USA welfare, as 73% of them are. Trump has brought jobs and capital back to the USA. Employing more blacks and minorities than ever. You seem to have a problem with Trump not being a slippery politician, thus not qualified as he is just a slippery business man 🙂 This guy calls John McCain a "statesman" THAT TELLS YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THIS LIAR.
    Sorry, get used to it, the people are not like you Bret (thank God), and appreciated Trumps accomplishments (10x that of Obama)
    and do not bristle like you at the idea of a non politician making excellent decisions in the oval office.
    If you want to understand who took away freedoms: Read the two articles below if you want the facts: Media, including CNN is not your friend, but your manipulating, propaganda spouting master…
    https://truthout.org/articles/democracy-in-peril-twenty-years-of-media-consolidation-under-the-telecommunications-act/
    http://tapnewswire.com/2015/10/six-jewish-companies-control-96-of-the-worlds-media/
    1.Bill Clinton, Communications Act of 1996,
    2 Bush And OBAMA and the Patriot Act, and NDAA.
    A nice piece on Bret below…..
    http://www.tomatobubble.com/id1230.html

  46. Que éste gringo corrupto, vendido, no se meta en los asuntos de nuestra nación mexicana, en México no es bien venido. Es más le conviene no venir,

  47. Brett is right: Silence about the corrupt intelligence services and the lying and biased media is a long standing tradition in the US and Trump breaks this establishment convention. Very worrying, isn't it (((Brett Stephens)))?

  48. New York Times goads Trump into major new war in Syria – 15 September 2018 – https://xenagoguevicene.com/2018/09/15/new-york-times-goads-trump-into-major-new-war-in-syria-by-bill-van-auken-15-september-2018/

    The past week has seen a growing drumbeat of US threats against the Syrian government of President Bashar al-Assad and its Russian and Iranian allies that Washington and its NATO allies are preparing to launch a major military assault in response to the offensive begun by Damascus to reassert control over the northwestern province of Idlib. The Trump administration, which has twice carried out missile strikes on Syrian government targets on the pretext of responding to the alleged use of chemical weapons by government forces, is threatening to carry out significantly greater aggression this time around.

    While Washington and its allies have all issued repeated warnings about a supposedly imminent chemical weapons strike by Damascus, the Russian defense ministry has reported that it has intelligence that Western-backed “rebels” have brought quantities of chlorine into Idlib and are preparing to stage and film a bogus attack in order to provoke a US-led bombing campaign.
    US ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley made it clear in an interview with Fox News this week that Washington would not rely on a fake chemical attack. “Any offensive on the civilian people in Idlib was going to be dealt with,” she said, warning Damascus, Tehran and Moscow, “Don’t test us again.”

    Under these conditions, one of the most right-wing figures in the New York Times’ stable of opinion writers has issued an angry indictment of the Trump administration for failing to prosecute a direct military confrontation with Iran in Syria.

    “The Trump administration has made clear that its top priority in the Middle East is to thwart Iran’s nuclear and regional ambitions. So why is it so reluctant to lift a finger against Tehran’s most audacious gambit in Syria?” demands the columnist, Bret Stephens, referring to Idlib.
    Stephens is an old hand at supporting and justifying US wars of aggression. In 2002-2003, his was one of the most vociferous voices in favor of an unprovoked war against Iraq. Writing for the Jerusalem Post—where he became editor—Stephens published a fearmongering article warning that without a US invasion, “an astonished world” would wake up to “the Arab world’s first nuclear bomb.” This was despite ample evidence that Baghdad’s limited nuclear program had long since been dismantled and that the entire campaign over Iraqi “weapons of mass destruction” was phony propaganda used to drag the American people into a war based upon lies.

    While editor at the Jerusalem Post, Stephens led the right-wing Israeli newspaper in naming Paul Wolfowitz, the assistant defense secretary who was one of the main architects of the war, as its “man of the year.” It hailed him as the author of the criminal US preemptive war strategy that would “underpin U.S. action against other rogue states,” i.e., Libya, Syria and Iran.

    Despite the exposure of the Bush administration’s WMD fraud, Stephens stuck to the propaganda narrative even a decade after the war, writing in the Wall Street Journal in 2013 that the self-evident charge that the Bush administration launched a war based upon lies was a “libel” and “cheap slander.” He claimed that the White House had based itself on “testimony of U.N. inspectors like Hans Blix,” itself a libel in that Blix had insisted that the Bush administration ignored his team’s warnings that there was no evidence to justify a war.

    Stephens pulled up stakes at the Wall Street Journal, where he had become deputy editor, and moved to the Times after the election of Trump. He had been part of an “anyone but Trump” coterie of neocons and had announced that he would vote for Hillary Clinton, opposing the Republican candidate because of his failure to enunciate a sufficiently bellicose foreign policy, particularly toward Russia.

    He was brought onto the Times by the paper’s editorial page editor James Bennet, a state-connected figure whose brother is a right-wing Democratic senator from Colorado and whose father was a State Department official who headed the Agency for International Development (AID), an instrument for CIA provocations in countries around the world.

    Bennet wrote at the time that Stephens would “bring a new perspective to bear on the news,” along with “a deep sense of moral purpose and adventure about our work.” Such a glowing description for a right-wing warmonger.

  49. Brett is a rank liar. For example, he has said Trump failed to condemn what happened at Charlottesville when Trump condemned both sides. Brett wanted him to not condemn Antifa along with the NAZIs. Also Brett says Trump lies 500 times per day. Brett does not seem to know the difference between disagreeing with someone and them being a liar. Brett is a scoundrel. A person without dignity or morality. His passion for mass immigration has blinded him. He obviously has deep hatred for the traditional European, Christian roots of America. He has admitted his ancestors were Bolsheviks, and I suspect he still carries some of that Bolshevik mentality combined with some hatred of the Goy people who Trump exemplifies for him.

  50. Trump may well turn out to be the most successful president in history. His only crime is he is a White, Protestant male. I can say for certain that Brett Stephens is not conservative. He is for mass immigration, finds the concept of a border wall offensive. It is not conservative to wish a your nation fundamentally changed by mass immigration. I’ve watched this happening for 50 years and it has Devestated my community, my county, my state and my country. I wish Brett could see what my community was 50 years ago compared to now. It went from Mayberry, Leave it to Beaver, Lassie utter niceness to Blade Runner meets MS13 dystopia.

  51. Anyone who is of the white race, and ignorant to racism will agree to what Trump is doing….What Trump is doing does not affect him, and his future.

  52. I'm scared to death my grandchildren will model their behavior after Trump. That kids who want to grow up to be President will look at the negative behaviors and attitudes of Trump and think THAT'S "presidential?" Or worse — that it actually will become the kind of person who will grow up to be President? OMG.

  53. In a wYy the PrEsiDENt is riGHt wheN hE saYs ThEre’s nO coLLUsion. WheN YoU SeARch the WhITe HouSE wEBsiTe foR meNTioNs Of tHe woRd “weAlTHieSt”, yOu GEt muLtiPLe rESUlts. WheN yOu seaRCh FOr tHe wORd “COLlUsioN” yOu get zERo results. HuH. 🤔 We’LL exPLain thAt ahEad oN MoRNing JoE.

  54. You like Corporate tax cuts without spending cuts, defense spending accounting for 2/3 of the entire budget? You are a not just a NeverTrumper, you are a NeverConservative!

  55. Well, it is simple actually – Brett's Neocon instincts are at odds with Trump's confusing non-interventionist-but-I-need-to-excite- the-base foreign policy tendencies and scattershod actions in that realm.

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